Fire Gundy II!!!!!!!!!!

F*** all you haters!

 

Cann't you at least edit the picuture to proper size?

 

I'll take on your argument. It's a good one but consider this. Why does one player make such a difference?

A good coach should be able to get the most out of players and be able to guide them through rough spots. OTOH a coach who can't win a game without one key player isn't necessarily a bad coach, since a bad coach would still lose even with that star player, but mediocre. So yes its hard to blame the ability of the rest of the players to hit an outside shot without T-Mac but if JVG is the genius that some people make him out to be shouldn't he have been able to come up with game plans to get around that?

For that matter why are the other Rox incapable of hitting an outside shot except when T-Mac is there? IMO it has to do with T-Mac's ability to free up the whole offense and let them play looser. Since he can create shots it takes the pressure off of the other players from having to hit so many outside shots letting them react more. The problem without T-Mac is that there are very few on the team that can create shots. Part of this is that besides T-Mac, Yao, Swift and Head they're older who aren't as athletic as they used too and more suspect to injury like Sura. These were the players that JVG brought in so he can't totally escape the responsibility for this team.

One more thought why JVG deserves a lot of the blame during the losing streak and T-Mac deserves most of the credit is that while yes the Rox D was statistically still good during the losing streak what cost them close games was key defensive breakdowns late in games. We're still seeing this same problem and in the Warriors game the Rox almost blew it in the third. before coming back to exploit the Warriors' passivity in the fourth. The difference is that T-Mac energizes the offense so much that we can overcome defensive lapses as long as we keep the game close. This was the same thing that happened last year and if you look at the oppositions scores during this streak we've had opponents score 3 times over 90 and in the losing streak they scored 3 times over 90 and once at 90. These aren't the type of scores that are to be expected out of a stifling D but the difference is that we are scoring a lot more with T-Mac having scored over a 100 three times. So a JVG team without T-Mac struggles to get into the 80's while with T-Mac routinely can get over a 100 but in both cases opponents still routinely score over 90. That tells me that T-mac rather than JVG is the key to Rox victories.

To sum up IMO JVG isn't a bad coach but he's far from a great coach. He's smart enough to recognize the talent that he's got in T-Mac but without him he can't motivate the team or scheme enough to get them to play competitively in this league which in my book makes him a so-so coach.

 

Nice Shady!

Well, now this thread is back on the main homepage. I guess that's the goal for the supporters of this.

 

You haters can come up with any theories/excuses/arguments you want as to why the team is winning now. The coach gets the credit. Period.

You haters give Rudy T. so much credit for the two rings yet conviniently forget he had arguably the best player of the era. When he got old and went down, we sucked balls. Then, we also forget he had Steve Francis and the most horrible offensive scheme I can ever remember.

Yet, this coach loses one of the top 5 players in the league who can do it all and we all see makes the team 300 times better. And we find reasons to fire him. And when that reason is no longer valid, we make up another one. Then when that one is not valid, we dig up another one. And so it goes. You guys have to let go of the NYC bias. The Civil War has been over for quite a long time now. He is our coach. Can we support him and give him the same chance as the previous coach who went no where without his number one star?

I love Gundy. But when his chance is up with me, I will start my own damn hater thread. I have to be fair just like I gave Rudy plenty of chances to do something after 1997.

I got tons of ductape for them ankles. The line is getting longer.

 

Sishir, actually your argument is flawed. Let's say TMac is 20 points better than Bowen, guess many would agree. If JVG is a very good coach, and he actually brings nearly the most from all the players at this point, you replace TMac with Bowen, we are 20 points short.

If JVG could motivate or bring more out of the rest of his players, which means he didn't do that in the beginning. If that had happened, it would actually mean JVG wasn't a good coach before, coz he failed to bring the best from his players. Right now, he's very consistant, with TMAc we score 100, without we did 80, but the opponents score about the same. Can I conclude that JVG is actually a very good coach? 1. He consistantly brings the best out of his players, no more to bring, even with TMac down. 2. given that TMac is a good defender, our defence didn't suffer when he was down, which means JVG's modified defensive schema made up the shortcoming.

In conclusion, 20 points difference because of TMac, means JVG and the team is consistant. It could be consistantly bad, mediocre, or good. The only variation here is with or without TMac.

One might ask, if the most were brought out of our players, we wouldn't have any more improvement? No, because players like Yao and Swift, even TMac, they are still improving. Next year's most from them are different than this year's. So, with a consistant JVG, we can still be better.

Not to draw anything significant, but play the spin machine a little bit, on a slow Friday afternoon

 

so fake. He never had that much hair

 

Those are good points too but if without T-Mac JVG is getting the most out of his players and they still struggle to score 80 then there's something wrong with the players and since these, with the exception of Yao, JVG does share some of that responsibility.

Either way though you're right this is spinning and speculation but since none of us are coaches for the Rox we do this instead.

 

Dear solid...

I went ahead and checked their record....

the Rockets went 5-1 on their road trip on the back of McGrady's greatness...
but then again, you've been a Rockets fan longer than I have been alive, so you will probably tell me some lame excuse why we have won 7 out of their last 9 games...

Im glad you gave me the chance to back up my statement, can you back up yours?

 

LOL.

 

Takes some good coaching along with our superstar to keep winning with all our injuries.

 

No diehard Rockets fan should be disappointed with a 5 and 1 road trip. It should be crystal clear that the slow start was do the injuries and adding new players to the mix. Good job Rockets and JVG!

 

Good job Rockets yes.
Van Gundy still must go.

 

Does your screen name make you seem like a smarter person?

Anyhow, what coach do you propose the rockets hire?

 

I will be willing to pay CLUTCH at least $500 to see you gone forever.

Better still do us all a favor - GET LOST!

 

YOU WIN!!!!!!!!!! I am shocked and elated at the outcome of the road trip. I am also shocked that I actually viewed your follow-up post. The Rocket's defense kept them in games, no doubt. This is JVG's strong suit; however, the problems that I listed are unchanged, even worse. Now Mutombo, Anderson, and Barry (reinjured) are added to the list of "old players" who are out. Now Ming is out. CD and JVG are responsible for the personnel selections that gave of us their "last gasp," in 2004. And who did they bring in for 2005? More old players in Alston and Anderson. TMac and Ming are giving all they have, but they are virtually playing two against five. Amazingly this arrangement worked on the road trip, but, with Ming gone for awhile, the age of this team will prove it's undoing, and for TMac, Ming, and the fans, that is a shame. I still contend, we need fresh faces, young, athletic players to mix iin with the vets. Head is a great start, but we still need an aggressive, rebounding machine PF and a quick hot-shooting SF wouldn't hurt either. As far as JVG and his Ewing clone plan for Ming, still a bad idea.

 

This calls for fire JVG III