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Fire Gundy II!!!!!!!!!!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by R0ckets03, Dec 3, 2005.

  1. pirc1

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    The biggest thing is with TMAC the whole team have confidence. When you have confidence in a game like basketball, you perform much better (even for me when I was playing in pickup games, when I knew the best player is on my team!). Yao needs to develope the confidence that he can carry the team even when TMAC is not playing, then Rockets will be a championship team.
     
  2. TBar

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    Too early to say the season is turned around we are still 3 games under .500 and not even in the top 8 yet.

    McGrady sure makes a difference.




    DD

    I agree Dakota

    I give credit to Tracy more than JVG for winning now.
     
  3. Cohen

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    Is that what DD said?
     
  4. clove

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    Didn't you already agree you were wrong about JVG last year?

    It doesn't matter though, like you said, your 'hatred' ;) for van gundy is giving us lots of wins. If only we could get edc to post more here, we'll go undefeated....

    I think I also remember you were the one doing all the booing in the arena when we were playing badly. I was one of your few supporters. hehe, keep it up.
     
  5. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    And we lost in the first round.....anyone excited about that?

    DD
     
  6. OddsOn

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    HAH HAH........this thread is pointless now.....HAH HAH!!!
     
  7. DaDakota

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    Well yeah... I said that McGrady sure makes a difference.


    I think it is more about TMac than JVG......

    Tmac is the only one with the freedom to do whatever he wants with the ball, and it makes everyone else looser....

    JVG is too maniacal as a coach, he needs to loosen up a little bit....check that...a lot a bit !

    DD
     
  8. LongTimeFan

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    I'm excited about having Stromile Swift and Alston this year, yeah.

    Struggle out the gate - FIRE JVG! HE SUCKS! WE CAN'T SCORE OVER 100!
    "We don't have Tmac, we'll be fine"
    "No we'll suck with him too because our coach sucks!"


    Win 6 out of our last 7, with scores of:

    100 - 75 - 91 - 106 - 100 - 111 (98 reg.) - 104

    That's 4 straight 100 pt. games.. and ESPN was saying the Rockets/Lakers were the hottest teams right now.
    "Um... well... uh... it's Tmac, not JVG! Yeah!"
     
  9. ima_drummer2k

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    No offense, but that's nonsense. We were going to struggle out of the gate even with Tmac. Without him, it made it worse but that's ancient history now. I love how when we play bad, it's JVG's fault and when we play well, it's in spite of JVG. :confused:

    Why are we playing well right now:

    1. TMac it back at 100% (almost)
    2. We're hitting shots

    We're hitting the same shots we were missing in November. The offense hasn't changed. Nothing has changed. We're just hitting shots now. How was it JVG's fault that we were missing shots? Was he coaching guys to miss shots on purpose?
     
  10. DaDakota

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    Not true at all, we are hitting shots because TMAC is setting up easier wide open shots for his team.

    JVG is not a bad coach, he is just too controlling.

    When TMac is not in the game, I think the players feel WAY too much pressure.....with Tmac......they relax a lot more.

    This is especially true of Yao, who is finally starting to get back over 50% shooting, now that Tmac is giving him some easy ones.

    Tmac is the key....no doubt......JVG could have done a better job when TMac was out....simply by loosening the reigns on the rest of the team....I think they lost and missed shots because they were tight.

    DD
     
  11. parlaynhustle

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    i dont even know why ur a rockets fan...i dont think i ever seen u post anything positive about us, everything that comes out ur mouth is negative...what u got to say now after our 5 game winning streak
     
  12. DaDakota

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    All of the games count the same........we have some making up to do...against first and last place teams.

    A win is a win.....

    Hopefully we can get one or two more on this road trip and Tmac's woman can hold her water !

    :)

    DD
     
  13. pirc1

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    Very true.
     
  14. LongTimeFan

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    Out of curiosity, where do you rank JVG as far as coaches in the league? I'd have to put them around here:

    1. Poppovich
    2. PJ
    3. Larry Brown
    4. Riley
    4. JVG

    I used to have Sloan in that category, but I think he's run his course in Utah a la Rudy did in Houston. I was kinda iffy on putting Riley over AJ, but his past speaks for itself.

    He actually is a Rockets fan.. last year he got over his stupidity and admitted that JVG was a lot better than the bandwagon thought. But I guess he reverted back to his old ways. Some people never learn. ;)

    On the other hand, I question edc's Rocket loyalty. Ever since JVG has become coach, I haven't seen a positive post about them. Even during this win streak, he seems to fade off in the distance. He'll show up to correct anyone on what his opinion of Misterr Van Gundy is though. EDIT: Holy crap i just looked up his last post. The last 23/24 (I lost count) were all direct/indirect shots at JVG. He did take a timeout from JVG bashing to comment ab McGrady's personal life though!
     
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  15. ima_drummer2k

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    Obviously, but we were getting a lot of wide open shots even when McGrady was out. We were just missing them. Now, we're making them.

    I don't buy this "we were too tight" argument. I think it had more to do with new players (Rafer, DA, Swift, Head) learning a new scheme and veteran players (Wesley, Howard) coming off injuries.

    The bottom line is that the losing streak is history. It's time to move on. Read my sig.
     
  16. OddsOn

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    Just to make certain I am clear on this....based on the illogical deduction of some of the posters in this thread:

    When the team is losing without T-Mac and the other players can't seem to buy a basket or get Yao the ball in good position its somehow all JVG's fault...

    When the team is winning with T-Mac in the lineup and the offense is flowing more smoothly, Yao is getting the ball in good position and guys are hitting their open jumpers its all because of T-Mac and JVG gets none of the credit...

    How about the fact that our defense was still at the top of the league even though we were losing?

    Now admittedly T-Mac makes everyone on the team better when he is on the floor, that is sort of a given. But if the other players just aren't that good by themselves and Yao gets triple teamed everytime he touches the ball because his teammates can't hit a jumpshot, how can you fully blame the coach for this? I don't see the logic here... :confused:
     
  17. DaDakota

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    SHHHHHHHHHHHH !!! We are hunting wabbits !
     
  18. OddsOn

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    With my spear and magic helmet!

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  19. Severe Rockets Fan

    Severe Rockets Fan Takin it one stage at a time...

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    Cmon OddsOn, don't let logic get in the way of a good old fashioned JVG bashing. Seriously, it'll always be like this, we could go 82-0, then tmac goes down with an injury before the playoffs and Van Gundy would be to blame for not winning the championship. Injuries don't matter, the fact that we have quite a few new players doesn't matter, the fact that our shooters can't hit wide open shots doesn't matter, it's always Van Gundy's fault because he makes our players play with too much discipline on the offensive end.

    Honestly, I'm kind of impressed about how good people are at deflecting all the blame on to him. LOL.
     
  20. Severe Rockets Fan

    Severe Rockets Fan Takin it one stage at a time...

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    All true ID2K, great sig too, hope you keep that updated. :)
     

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