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Fire Espada

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Mr.Scarface, Mar 10, 2024.

  1. roxallways

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    This is looking like a loss. The offense has gone into slumber but Framber is the main issue with this game obviously. His stinker tonight is a buzz kill. The team can't let it get them the rest of the series. Framber doesn't deserve a long leash moving forward.
     
  2. Qan

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    Fire Espada back on? Not even 2 games.
     
  3. Little Bit

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    His in game management is terrible. If the Astros happen to make the playoffs, I don’t trust him at all.
     
  4. Nook

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    Framber is fine. He was doing well entering the inning and he still had velocity.

    I’m more concerned that we have a manager that blew a 5 run lead by letting a starter give up 7 runs in an inning. When it was 6-4, Valdez should have been pulled.

    That is simply inexcusable
     
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    Framber going renegade is fine?!? Clearly Espada doesn't have the respect he should. What's he going to do about it?
     
  6. Nook

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    Framber’s pitching ability is fine.

    As for how Espada and the Astros handle it - I don’t know. My best guess is nothing happens. Maybe we see Caratini catch him or Valdez doesn’t go rogue again.

    As for respect in the locker room and organization - I can promise you that the next manager will be 100% Crane’s decision. Brown had a lot of input the choice of Espada.
     
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    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    I thought Espada was an automatic choice. Players liked him and he's been mentored by 2 world series managers. But holy smokes, he ain't that bright. I still miss Hinch. He wasn't perfect but he gave you confidence that he knew what he was doing most of the time.
     
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  9. Jose Cuervo

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    Espada aint' it.
     
  10. jim1961

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    Is Espada the Astros version of the Rockets Silas?
     
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    I'm not in the locker room so I can't make any comment as to how he's doing there....but all the smoke suggests really not good.

    What I can easily comment on is his in game choices, and they have been terrible...consistently. He makes a lot of the same boneheaded lineup choices Dusty made (although he's gotten better recently) and his bullpen usage (or failure to use) has been a disaster. I thought basic game management would have been his strong point given all his time here.
     
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    Silas was a shitty coach on a shitty team. Espada is a shitty coach on a good team
     
  13. rockbox

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    He sure isn't Rudy T
     
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    Espada should've pulled Framber before another pitch was thrown.
     
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    I dont get all of the Hinch love, he won a title when he allowed his players to cheat. Then he was given an all time great team and choked away another title.
     
  16. astrosrule

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    Won the 1st title in franchise history and didn't deliberately sabotage the team to feed his own ego. That's probably a good starting point.
     
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    Had to cheat to win it.

    Who sabotaged the team? I would say Hinch/Cora and Beltran are who you're referring too?
     
  18. astrosrule

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    lol, right
     
  19. raining threes

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    Exactly

    I think you're ungrateful that the man built a dynasty level team that has carried on through 2 more GM's and a decade of great baseball. If you are referring to how he treated the press I would love to see everybody in the press treated they way Luhnow treated them if the press is going to treat people badly.
     
  20. astrosrule

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    LOL, you're funny. RVO must be your alt on here
     
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