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Fire Bill O'Brien

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by DonnyMost, Sep 23, 2016.

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Should we fire Bill O'Brien?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. Abstain (for the moment)

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  1. Nook

    Nook Member

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    He went 9-7 each of those seasons and played 6 games against the division (Colts 8-8, Jags 5-11, Titans 3-13) where they went 5-1 each of those seasons. Outside their division they went 4-6 each of those seasons.

    You really don't have a very high bar, when being in a terrible division and only winning 40% of out of division games is an accomplishment.
     
  2. Torn n Frayed

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    9-7 is not the bar, it's the ceiling.
     
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  3. tmacfor35

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    He’s great at winning division games.

    That’s a good thing.

    This team has been lacking a QB since his arrival.

    He got one and the offense was the best in the league.
     
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    Or, the division just sucked so bad that division games were easy to win. He doesn't seem so good it this year when the division is not quite as sucky. All it took was a little mediocrity in the division (the division is led this year by ... Blake Bortles) for that strategy to stop working.

    Who's fault is that? Who was it that that wanted all the ex-Patriot QBs?
     
  5. DreamShook

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    And with Billy, the roof is the ceiling.
     
  6. Torn n Frayed

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    'Doesn't matter DreamShook, doesn't matter..'
     
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  7. vonbock

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    You should fire whoever decided to select xsf in second round and skip on garrapollo. Then trading up to get Louis Nix instead of a qb. Then drafting a 4th round draft pick on a qb who is always injured saying he is your qb of the future. Next, telling everyone you are a qb guru and you can win the super bowl with any journeyman qb, especially from the patriots. Then make everyone feel bad for him because he never had a qb. Great way to run a team.
     
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  8. Mr. Clutch

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    Don't forget trading up for Strong
     
  9. texian

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    That would be Rick Smith.

    O'Brien was disgusted with Nix, who Rick loved his "personality". Nix was the one who prompted O'Brien to publicly asking for players "who football is important to them"... Nix was that guy who just wanted to be drafted into the NFL, but not put in the work -- whined about everything, no recovery work, had a food issue he wouldn't fix, poor conditioning, favorite thing to do was sit around and play video games.
     
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    Marvin Lewis?

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    If you keep Rick McNair & hire Marvin Lewis...

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    #striveformediocrity
     
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  12. texian

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    And this would be the primary reason Rick wants him... go along to get along and everybody keeps their jobs and the paychecks keep coming in.

    "Good organizations reload -- the bad ones sell hope." -- Louis Riddick

    The Texans unload and sell hope.
     
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  14. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost be kind. be brave.

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    The Texans have a QB as good as Watson, and the best they can hire is a coach who is 0-7 in the playoffs. Just because he won’t rock the boat with Rick Smith. Can we aim a little higher?
     
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    Just went to listen to the segment...

    Lance Z:

    ...I don't see Bill O'Brien sticking around. Bring a new coach in and the new name I heard is not gonna make Houston happy. Marvin Lewis. I had someone tell me around league circles they've looked at Frank Reich & Marvin Lewis. If you think about it, Marvin Lewis plays nice with the GM, plays nice with the owner(not Bill O'Brien's deal), has had some 'success' in Cincinnati.

    (Other guy with Lance) When you say Cincinnati, they go to jail & can't win in the playoffs.

    Most of Houston is really pissed off. I don't know if it's Bob McNair, Rick Smith...it's never one thing. If you can say it's one thing, it's easier to fix. This is an organizational issue because it's now 15 years old. If you don't expect great things....at some point you say when does the GM take the heat? If it's not the head coaches, if we decide it wasn't Kubiak and wasn't O'Brien, they're gone now & we're having the same thing, then it's a trickle up scenario I guess.
     
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  18. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost be kind. be brave.

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    Like who?

    When teams hire a coach you're usually looking at a rookie or a re-tread/washout.

    Every once in a while you get lucky and you have the opportunity to hire a talented coach who has simply worn out his welcome somewhere.

    Ex. Andy Reid, Marty Schottenheimer, Dan Reeves, Bill Parcells, Mike Holmgren, Tony Dungy, Dick Vermeil, etc.

    If we're not looking at another rookie HC (all 3 of the Texans' HCs have been rookies at the time of hire) then we could do a hell of a lot worse than the 32nd all-time winningest coach in NFL history.
     
  19. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost be kind. be brave.

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    I'm not sure how after 4 seasons people can still be unsure how to vote on this.

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