Yes, and we don't even know who to blame because the roles of Smith and O'Brien are not clearly defined. Did O'Brien have a lot of say over the draft and free agency, or was it Smith? How much say does McNair exercise? Don't forget there were several leaks that O'Brien hadn't met with Osweiler and had little say in them giving him a 4/72 deal. That is a big deal, the head coach had little say on whom his QB is? It all reeks of complacency from ownership, a manipulative GM that has insulated himself from fault and a coach that doesn't particularly inspire confidence.
Just bite the bullet and hire an offensive coordinator or at least a proven offensive assistant. Not Bill's buddies.
And yet... the Broncos really wanted to keep Osweiler so that makes me think this is on the head coach. Every situation is different, etc. - but you look at some of the results teams are having with young QBs... I don't know. I can't stand the fact they look so remarkably inferior to the better teams.
They wanted to keep him at much less guaranteed money. It was never stated exactly how much. A $70 million offer by the Broncos but only $20 million guaranteed would be a much cheaper deal in terms of commitment by the team.
This front office and coaching staff is becoming an embarrassment. (Not like it wasn't already one) The roster itself is a huge problem. There is absolutely no depth on the offensive line. That isn't even including you lack starter caliber players at LG, C, and RT. Sua`Filo at best is a rotational backup guard. Mancz was giving away each and every snap count with his head nod, and doesn't have the strength to give any push at the line of scrimmage. Newton hasn't been good since OB's first season. If you want to put the best line out there with what you got, I would have to go with Brown, Allen, Sua`Filo, Newton, and Clark in order of LT on down. You still have trash playing, but at least you're giving them options to succeed until next year. The Defensive line is a joke. You've got guys that aren't scheme fits playing in positions they aren't suited for. Wilfork has shown up a couple times this year, but overall his tenure as a Texan has been extremely disappointing. They're converting Clowney to DE, and while he's showing promise, it's also depleting your OLB depth. Merci is the total package at OLB, but Simon should only be a rotational OLB. Too often he gets caught not keeping contain on the edge. Reader shows promise, but he needs time. Covington has flashed, but he isn't built for every down use. That's it. No one else. You've got slow non-athletic inside linebackers. They're pretty much clones of each other, and only McKinney is performing well enough to start. Cushing is a huge liability. And like with every other position on this team, that's pretty much it. The secondary has it's issues as well. Joseph is seeing a major drop off from his performance last year. Kareem is his usual self, a typical CB2 that has the tendency to give up big plays. He would be much better as the slot corner, just doesn't have the athleticism to play the boundary nor the make up speed. Johnson needs to stay outside so he can gain experience out there. He has the physical ability to play out there, just needs to the playing time. Bouye has been very nice for the most part. I like him a lot, especially in the slot and lined up with the larger WR and TE. At no point should Charles James every see the field on defensive downs. Andre Hal has been pretty decent and Demps hasn't been that bad, but he has a tendency to forget his man or to even line up. The other guys simply haven't shown the ability to be starter quality, at least not yet. The WR corp is solid. Their play has been determined by the poor play of Brock and the Oline. It's either Brock is under constant pressure, or he's feeling nonexistent pressure because he knows sooner or later it's coming, or he's simply inaccurate on the simplest of throws. And because they can't run the ball, opposing defenses aren't respecting the run game. The TEs have showed promise. CJ has finally looked like the guy they thought he would be out of the draft. Sucks that injury has been just hurting them most of the season. The RB group is a huge disappointment. Only Blue/Grimes seems to know how to operate within this line scheme and offense. And of course Grimes is injured. Lamar is a ZBS running back, and OB wants to run power no matter what. Sadly, he isn't realizing that this team isn't a power run team, and the ZBS fits the oline and RBs much better. Stubbornness and the fact that they aren't understanding what they're good at is frustrating. This constant resetting of the offense year after year, and having no understanding of the type of players they need to accomplish their scheme goals is frustrating. Evaluate your players strengths, and put forth a ****ing game plan that utilizes it. This coaching staff is so ingrained in trying to show how smart and inventive they are, and they're ignoring that they simply aren't good at the simplest things. They need to stop getting ****ing cute in play calling, and just play to their strengths. Stop this game plan scheme bullshit and focus on what you're good at. Which as of right now, isn't much. Simplify your offense and get your guys doing the basic **** well first. Then you can add more complicated plays. It's pathetic how this team is simply never ready on game day. It's like the film they studied was decades out of date for the opposing team. They're always lost. Always unaware of what the other team is capable of. It pisses me off how inept this team is, and it's been that way since inception of the franchise. Oh, and if your kicker can't do kick offs, then why in the **** is he on this roster? I mean, he can't barely make a short FG to begin with. Jesus christ, this organization is such a **** show. If this continues, I'd clean house at the end of the season. FO and Coaching staff haven't shown the ability to decide how they want to play, how to acquire the players in order to play that way, and then implement the scheme so they can execute those plans.
I never had the courage to say it, but I kind of felt like the 2013 Texans season should have just been a mulligan. I felt like 2011 and 2012 earned Kubiak and Wade a get-out-of-jail free card for the dumpster fire that was 2013. Of course that *never* would have flown in reality, and if BOB had turned out to be a good hire it certainly wouldn't keep me up at night, but watching how well the Broncos are coached compared to the Texans just annoys the piss out of me. So... if McNair grows a pair and does what we all know needs to be done, who do we target in 2017? Seems like there's nothing but retreads available.
You're much too concerned with the money. The Broncos were in the ballpark, offering him similar money. The point... I'm struggling to imagine him being one of the worst starting QBs in football with that team.
If you can't understand what I'm saying, that's fine. I don't expect everyone to follow along, especially after a Texans loss. I know the next week will be filled with the hottest of hot takes from the window licker segment of the Texans fanbase and I accept that. Hopefully one day you'll follow along.
I mostly agree - except... 1) we can't forget 2007-2010; that undermines the significance of '11-'12, IMO; 2) Kubiak had lost the team. I don't say that randomly; I've heard it from reliable people. He lost them in '12 - every one jokes about the letter jacket story but that was it. That's when the coaches knew they were being ignored and marginalized. If you don't have your locker room, you're screwed.
My point is that they were NOT in the ballpark. They were so far apart Brock stopped answering their calls. The best teams in the league are obsessed with contract money for a reason.
Agree, though I think stuff was falling apart between Rick Smith and Kubiak before then which sowed the seeds. The re-signing of Schaub post lis-franc injury was always curious. Schaub was surprised they didn't wait until the offseason and Kubiak wasn't at the press conference. Rick made some comment that "I never said we'd wait to the offseason." My guess is it was a Rick-Bob call. Then there was the Peyton Manning debacle, where Kubiak didn't want to sign Peyton but Rick supposedly had a deal ready. That may have been enough for Rick Smith to win the owner's loyalty over Kubes. But all that goes to how McNair has built a dysfunctional organization.
No; he stopped taking calls because his agent advised him to stop taking calls. The Broncos' final offer was $16.5MM/year with $30MM guaranteed. Osweiler did not want to return to Denver. Simple as that - he didn't like Kubiak's offense and he was pissed they benched him for Manning. This is all common knowledge.
And why would the agent advise him to stop taking calls? Money. The agent doesn't care about all that other crap. And I doubt the Broncos offered $30m guaranteed. Do you have a link?
I would agree except for the fact that those were Kubiak's "rookie" years as a HC. We dealt with the growing pains. We saw offensive promise. He was playing in an insanely tough division. We made it through the rough patches of 07-10 only to flush it all away the moment things went sour. Granted, it went extremely sour, but I had confidence we could have bounced back in 2014 in a big way. Now, 2014-16 are BOB's "rookie" years too, but graded against Kubiak, BOB is showing very little promise as a HC. You do realize the letterman jacket thing was orchestrated by the players, right?
I don't want Cowher. The man hasn't been in coaching for 10 years. Coaching is like a muscle. If you don't use it, you lose it. The majority of a coach's effectiveness are made up of 2 things in my opinion. 1) Their network - how deep are their roots in the coaching circle so that they can identify and hire talented assistants and other staff that are necessary to build a championship team. This is the most dangerous thing about coaches that retire. Their network erodes. You can work to maintain it, but has Cowher? 2) Their pure X and O acumen - how well they understand the strategies and methods in the current NFL metagame, and how well they can gameplan and make adjustments in game. This also erodes rather quickly when you leave coaching, but less so if you stay involved in the sport in some form or another.
Dick Vermeil was away from coaching for 15 years before he came back and caught lighting in a bottle. But yeah, i don't want Cowher either.
