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Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Jeremy Williams, Sep 12, 2020.

  1. marks0223

    marks0223 2017 and 2022 World Series Champions
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    What makes you say that? The story from Chandler Rome shows there are many in the front office that don't like his lineups. In turn Dusty isn't happy that they are chirping. Dana Brown struggles to show support in his weekly radio segment. I think it'll be mutual that Dusty is ready to retire and the front office is ready to move on.
     
  2. Stephen66

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    That legendary Dusty stubbornness I'm afraid......
     
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  3. lnchan

    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard
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    Dusty saw what happened on Kirby and realizes coaches can outlast general managers. We should be lucky the chaplain is not running the team.
     
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    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    I don't think Crane will bring him back unless the players really support him or we win a WS. It would be a PR nightmare if Crane doesn't at least try to bring him back after winning.
     
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    The national media will rip Crane regardless if Dusty wants to come back and Crane wont let him

    And Dusty knows it
     
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  6. IdStrosfan

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    When Dusty took over this team, it was a veteran team coming off of its 2nd WS appearance in 2 years but embroiled in a scandal and in need of positive public image and press conferences.

    7 of the 13 position players and 6 of the (expected) 13 pitchers were 30 or older.

    Now this team has weathered that storm and has only 3 position players and 5 pitchers projected to make the 26 man roster next year that will be 30+.

    Dusty no longer fits this team's needs.

    They should offer Dusty a wonderful retirement celebration and a seat between Bagwell and Reggie Jackson for games.
     
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  7. BlindHog

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    What team are you talking about? Next year we will need to replace 1 manager, 1 first baseman, 1 bench catcher, & maybe 1 relief pitcher. The Astros will field what is likely the most in tact team in baseball.
     
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    I think he means from the 2017 season
     
  9. leroy

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    Try to focus on the positives. If he's back, it's because we likely won the World Series, you know, again. AND it gives so many something to complain about next season.

    Personally, my hope is he wins one more and retires gracefully. Especially if we win again, he's done his job and it's time to move forward. I question a lot of his decisions but winning is still way more fun than not. Could it be more with a different manage? Possibly. Though, I doubt Detroit fans are having a blast even though they have AJ Hinch, who many want back.

    Aren't the Texans on their 3rd head coach in 3 years?
     
  10. lnchan

    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard
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    Only after 3 GMs in 3 years.
     
  11. RussE

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    Let Baker and Maldy ride off in the sunset with a bottle of wine.
     
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    Dusty still has the team leading the AL West in good position for the Playoffs, and they'd be favored to make the ALCS yet again.

    Results speak.
     
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    At this point, you almost can't blame Maldy... dude is just playing his position (at a sub-standard level, relatively speaking)... I'm no apologist, but you almost gotta know he goes out there and does his best-- however; at this point in his career... his best doesn't jive with a championship-defending & catcher-of-the-futre stud playing lights-out/years-ahead-of-him game. For all the nonsense he's been able to put together this season-- there have been a few/far between clutch hits, runs, plays...
    I look at it like this: he IS currently the backup catcher (with experience), but just allowing the other enough time to stay solid.... perspective, friends. I'm tired of being negative on people-- that dude is playing to his contract at the health/age he's allowed. Root for them both-- we need them both... as complicated as it sounds, we can't afford to lose either right now --> October.

    All this falls back on Bill O'B... SH!!T, Dusty Baker.
    Every loss, every bad PH sub, every inning/batter SP left in to get rocked, every asinine insane and utterly r****ded fckng quote about "why" & "dont need help managing the ballclub" & "pissing on OUR hometown heroes (yeah, **** you for that Rodriguez comparison quote-- ignorant jack@ss) &"thank me later"... hey, really: **** YOU BUDDY-- I WILL BE THANKING YOU WHEN YOURE NO LONGER A PART OF THIS ORGANIZATION-- now, you wanna be a baller & really cement yourself in history: QUIT FCUKIN AROUND AND GET OUT OF YOUR STINKIN-THINKIN, WOE-IS-YOU, "I'M HERE FOR A REASON" BULLSHIT... maybe its time for YOU to get uncomfortable and get on some new SHi!T that potentially COULD elevate you to Rudy T status... its your choice-- Ostrich it or Own our once in a lifetime opportunity tie it off and keep this train a'rollin...
     
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    Dusty wasn't here then.
     
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    Sorry. I was referring to players age 30 or over and forgot to complete my thought.

    13 out of 26 players were 30+ in 2020 when Dusty took over.

    Only 8 next year.

    This team needs a completely different type of manager.
     
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    No question about needing a different manager.
     
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    Sure. The results are that he’s been enough of a boat anchor to almost singlehandedly make this race interesting. do
    You also believe eating ice cream results in more shark attacks. There’s a chart that shows those two things moving step by step in tandem with each other. Must mean one causes the other, right?
     
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    The only people that can measure how good or bad Dusty is doing at his job are the people in the Astros organization who see what is going on behind the scenes. All we see as fans are the results. Results wise we are doing well, so as fans we cannot conclude that he is dragging the team down. All we know is that he's achieving what we expected from this team.
     
  19. Qan

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    I feel, results wise, we are lacking though. I feel they can win at least 5 or 6 games more than what they have so far that's directly due to Dusty's asinine lineup set.
     
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    regular season wins? don't matter for a team like the Astros. Let's see what lineups Dusty plays in the Playoffs.
     

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