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Fire at TN Mosque site: Islamophobia still not a problem according to some idiots

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Oski2005, Aug 29, 2010.

  1. dback816

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    Spare me the patriotic spam. This isn't a rally of rednecks.

    American prosperity and wealth were not products of Christianity.

    Stick a bunch of Muslims on a brand new bigass continent 500 years ago and they'd be doing pretty well today too.
     
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  2. moestavern19

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    Pretty much.

    Jihad on the infidels, Manifest Destiny... same difference.
     
  3. thumbs

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    I am heartened to see the outrage regarding the destruction or threat of destruction of any place of worship. I just wish that many of the outraged posters here had been equally outraged some months back when southern churches were being burned by arsonists.
     
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  4. FranchiseBlade

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    A victory mosque? For anyone to believe it was a victory mosque they would have to be stupid enough to believe that Islam, or most Muslims, or Muslims in general consider Islam to be at war with the U.S. and in support of the attacks of 9/11.

    I guess there may be a few idiots who are stupid enough to believe that, but not many.
     
  5. Steve_Francis_rules

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    He's using a definition that's consistent with similar "phobias." For example, "homophobia" is not generally used to mean fear of gay people, but rather hatred or intolerance.
     
  6. Steve_Francis_rules

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    The mosque we're discussing in this thread is in Tennessee. You consider that a victory mosque in the truest sense?
     
  7. Steve_Francis_rules

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    Did you try posting an article about these acts of arson so that people could have a chance to show outrage? Also, were these churches the subject of a great deal of vicious opposition (making the likelihood of the arson being for a reason other than insurance much higher)?
     
  8. s land balla

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    I wonder if long-time Rockets fans are more accepting and understanding of Islam because of Hakeem. For all of the people critical of the motives behind Ramadan (*cough* DD *cough*), did you question Hakeem when he fasted during games in the 90's? Serious question, just curious to hear your responses.
     
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  9. tallanvor

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    This is why I said I do not hate Muslims, just Islam (the belief system). Hakeem has many redeeming qualities even if I disagree with him on religion and individual rights (things Islam addresses). I could say something similar about Yao and Communism.
     
  10. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    I think we'd rather you hate Muslims than hate Islam, because it's the Muslims doing the stupid bull**** not Islam.

    Oh, and Yao is not communist lol. A quick look at his lifestyle can confirm that.
     
  11. tallanvor

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    I would agree, but he does do a lot for a self-described, communist government (although it's debatable whether China is Communist)
     
  12. s land balla

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    Even if China is Communist, how does that affect you sir?
     
  13. s land balla

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    That's a slippery slope, especially when the overwhelming majority of "moderate" Muslims claim that the people doing "the stupid bull****" are, in fact, not Muslim at all in their actions.
     
  14. tallanvor

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    Communism is a system of beliefs in how a society should function. like the Islamic belief system, it represents a threat to my individual freedoms. Currently Islam and Communism don't affect me; but they could if they became more popular in America.
     
  15. FranchiseBlade

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    It's odd how scared some people are.
     
  16. Mr. Clutch

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    Doubtful.
     
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  17. Mr. Clutch

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    It's odd how complacent some people are.

    Islam, the religion, isn't a problem.

    Extremist violent Islam, as practiced by some Muslism, IS a problem.

    Or do you think everything in the Middle East is going well?
     
  18. Mathloom

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    No I think that's just the wrong word. The adjective is Islamic. They are not Islamic actions.

    They are the actions of Muslims though.
     
  19. Oski2005

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    So what's proactive? Blaming all Muslims for terrorism? Intimidating them into not building Mosques? Attacking cab drivers?
     
  20. FranchiseBlade

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    No, I'm all in favor of opposing extremist violent Islam.

    However, to claim that Islam and communism are a threat to people in the U.S. is an irrational fear.
     

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