Fire at TN Mosque site: Islamophobia still not a problem according to some idiots

I do not fear or hate Muslims (a people). I fear/hate Islam (a belief system).

 

I know little about Islam (I have never read the Koran). I am knowledgeable of Islamic societies and the freedoms they give their citizens.

 

How can you fear/hate Islam when you dont know anything about it?

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/printthread.php?t=191930&page=3&pp=20

 

Because I am knowledgeable of Islamic societies/governments and wouldn't want my children growing up in one.

 

There's no such thing as 'islamic societies', merely countries where the majority of the population are Muslim. There are 48 countries which fit that description:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Muslim_majority_countries

How many of the listed countries are you knowledgeable of?

 

Most. Of those countries listed, which governments would you want your kids to live under?

 

Not sure. Of the list I've only traveled to Saudi Arabia, UAE, Turkey, Egypt, and Pakistan. And out of those, I could see myself living in any except Egypt and Pakistan (though obviously I prefer the US since I've grown up here my whole life).

 

Maybe we should await the results of the to find out the reason for the arson and who did it. There are something like 100 churches burned down every year and the biggest reason for arson is insurance fraud, not hatred. Even earlier this year there were like 8 churches burned down in East Texas. Christianaphobia apparently spreading throughout Texas. There was also a mosque fire in Georgia last month where a Muslim is the prime suspect. The knee jerk reactions in here are amazing.


Suspect in mosque arson could be in country illegally
http://www.ajc.com/news/cobb/suspect-in-mosque-arson-566659.html?printArticle=y

A Muslim man charged with setting fire to a Marietta mosque may be in the country illegally, law enforcement officials confirmed Thursday.

Tamsir Mendy, 26, a native of Gambia, has been charged with first-degree arson and is being held without bail at the Cobb County detention center, said Scott Tucker, Marietta assistant fire chief.

Federal authorities have placed an "ICE detainer" on Mendy -- meaning he will be handed over to Immigration and Customs Enforcement for possible deportation after his case is adjudicated, said Cobb sheriff's department spokeswoman Nancy Bodiford.

While Mendy sat in jail Thursday, his wife’s cousin, Momodou Njie, was proclaiming his innocence.

“[Mendy] is not a criminal. It makes no sense for a Muslim to set fire to a mosque where he goes to pray everyday,” Njie told the AJC. “I think the authorities are looking for a quick answer and there he was. I still think this was a hate crime.”

Njie also insisted that Mendy was in the country legally.

“He has been staying with me for the past two weeks and I have known him for six or seven years, he is not that kind of guy,” Njie said. “I would like to see the evidence against him.”

Firefighters got the call about 11:30 p.m. Monday that the Masjid Al-Hedaya (Islamic Center of Marietta) was on fire. When they arrived at 968 Powder Springs St., flames were coming from the front and back of the converted house. Firefighters saved the structure, but damage is estimated at $100,000, Tucker said.

Mendy emerged as a suspect during an investigation by the Marietta Fire Department and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives officials, Tucker said. He was taken into custody at about 5:30 p.m. Wednesday at the Marietta Fire Department headquarters. There are currently no other suspects, Tucker said.

Officials said accelerants were used in the fire, but they would not elaborate on any of the evidence found during the investigation, or on any possible motives.

Investigators have ruled out the possibility that the arson was a hate crime.

The mosque's leader, Imam Hafiz Inayatullah, said members had ended a prayer service at the mosque at about 10:25 Monday night. After locking the doors, a member noticed Mendy sitting a short ways off, Inayatullah said.

Inayatullah has known Mendy for just two weeks. He was not a regular member of the mosque, praying there only a few times a week, the imam said.

During the time Mendy had been at the mosque, Inayatullah had only asked him his name.

“It’s obviously quite disturbing to hear that a member of the Muslim community is accused of this crime,” said Ibrahim Hooper, spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations.

Earlier this week, the council — noting other acts of violence against Muslims nationwide — had asked the FBI to investigate the fire.

“You never know these things going in. You have to use the information you have at the time. We want to see justice done no matter who committed the crime,” Hooper said.

In addition to questioning members of the mosque, investigators were also questioning members of an adjacent mosque nearby. A land disagreement almost three years ago divided the members into two factions.

 

I didn't see that twist coming. Sometimes it's good to reserve judgement until more facts surface.

 

Turkey has terrible laws against freedom of expression. 2 years in prison for speaking out against Turkey (I think they recently tried to change this though). Here is a freedom index done by some source I am not familiar with:

Saudi Arabia has terrible laws against freedom of the press. Government controls all news.

UAE is one I am less familiar with, but this is from Wikipedia:

 

Well, it's the only actual definition out there and it is in every major reference available, including printed dictionaries such as HarperCollins.

So acrophobia is the fear of acro rather than heights? Phobias don't work the way you described where the first half of the name is the thing people are scared of. It's not spiderophobia or snakeophobia. There is a pretty universally accepted definition of Islamophobia, and it's not the one you used.

Fair enough.

 

u should move to the north.

 

ignore that. decided not to link it.

 

You people are freaking out of your minds.

Muslim terrorists flew airplanes into the twin towers and the pentagon and killed thousands of innocent citizens. Of course there is going to be a negative outcry.

Osama Bin Ladin himself said that the twin towers were the symbol of the USA since we were in his opinion a Godless country (quote not verbatim)

Its pretty obvious that this is a victory mosque in the truest sense. If its not then why won't they just move it to another site as a sign of compassion to the American people?

Temple Mount in Jerusalem anyone?

 

Agreed. Similarly, why didn't black people just stay in the back of the bus as a compassion to the majority that didn't want them up front? Why didn't women just stay out of the voting booth when it was clear that the men didn't want them there? It would have been a great gesture of compassion by the blacks and women to not upset the rest of the people. The minority should always just cave to the irrational and ignorant whims of the majority.

 

Repped.

 

Oops. Shows how much I like to stay on top of things.

 

Wow so insightful.... all this hate and anger is justified and deserved, these people are nuts to see that this type of attitude/action as destructive. Don't see why people should care about someone burning a place of worship, as Muslim terrorists killed innocent people, nobody died..........signed by the tea party.




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More than half of the drivers said they had been called racial slurs by passengers at least once in the past 12 months, she said. Close to 35 percent of the 200 drivers said they had been told specifically, "Go back to your country."

Most of the drivers who reported these experiences are Pakistani, Indian and Afghan, Desai said.


http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/08/29/cab.driver.attacked/index.html?hpt=T2