Fire at TN Mosque site: Islamophobia still not a problem according to some idiots

He doesn't have to be, but he claims to be.

 

So you think an actual Muslim who currently lives in the middle east (correct me I'm wrong on that Mathloom) has less of an understanding about his own religion than you do, even though you have admitted repeatedly to knowing very little about Islam?

 

I am not sure how many of those are considered human rights violations (I doubt the death penalty and water-boarding are considered violations by many). Those other two are peanuts compared to what you kind find at any Islamic nation. You are also not considering that the American government did not condone what took place at Abu Ghraib.

 

Hasn't the US been illegally using torture against potentially hostile captives just within the last decade? I think a lot of people would consider that human rights abuse.

 

Yes. He is bias. How many people do you know would speak poorly of their own belief system?

 

You are just unbelievable.

 

no, he's just a troll

 

The US has not illegally tortured anyone. The Geneva Convention says that if your enemy did not sign the Geneva Convention and they are not abiding it's rules (obviously with David Pearl they are not), then you are not bound by the these laws.

 

fixed :grin:

 

Are you honestly arguing that the United States is a Christian nation?

 

Technically it's secular, but it is founded in Judeo-Christian values

 

When is something considered a Human right violation? So you didn't mind Abu ghraib and Guantanamo bay, just because somewere in the world worse thing happen? Killing One person is peanuts compared to killing 10 people, but it is still wrong.

You said that the US had a great human right record. I showed you that they didn't, it doesn't matter that there are countries who do worse things.

 

Steve Francis Rules was right...you really are unbelievable.

The constitution and the foundations of the US were based on 18th century British and French philosophers.

 

It was also founded by people whose ancestors left Europe to escape oppressive Christian nations, something you seem to think could never exist.

 

This is not what I was talking about, nor is it true except on paper. If we are talking about paper, I can name several Muslim countries who guarantee freedom of religion.

Your argument seems to support secularism more than anything else.

I was saying Palestinians want that stuff. There are Palestinians who don't have the right of return.

 

Right. I doubt that would exist cause the percentage of Christian oppressive countries today is fairly small (especially compared to Islam)

 

Sorry, are you saying my perception of Islam is incorrect and yours and Bin Laden's is correct?

 

I'm not Muslim. It's not my belief system. Islam, as you perceive it, is a load of trash which is one giant human rights violation.

How's that?

 

Guantanamo Bay is not a human rights violation. Drew Brees says they sit around and play Nintendo and watch movies, and who would argue with Drew.

As far as Abu Ghraib it was not supported by Americans or the government (not a single politician supported the soldiers' actions). It was a couple of people being pricks, nothing more. It would be like telling me we have a human rights problem because some guy in Alabama committed a hate crime and was arrested and sent to jail for it.

 

I have no idea what Bin Laden's perception of Islam is. I think my perception of Islam is correct or else I wouldn't believe it.