Fire at TN Mosque site: Islamophobia still not a problem according to some idiots

I'm going to take some time to create a huge map of what's going on in this thread. I really want the opinions of some non-muslim posters because i'm honestly kind of shocked that more people don't see this as blatant xenophobia.
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So, obviously contradictory statement. But ok, let's see what he has to say later on....

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Hmm, he doesn't hate all Islamic beliefs but he throws them in one category. Which he already expressly claimed to hate. Alright, whatever.

Then, he goes on to state that you can't define a person simply by their religion or beliefs. Yet, he just defined a whole category of beliefs by saying he hates them. Furthermore, maybe i'm just nuts but i can't understand the concept of hating a belief and not those who practice that belief...
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Hmm, Muslims being the key word here. So, looks like it isn't just Islam that's the problem in your eyes after all....
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Hmmmm, Muslims again. Gee, looks like it isn't Islam...yet again
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Sorry brohan. I think people tend not to try and understand ignorant and obviously bigoted viewpoints. No real point to that. Also, you're right. Instead of trying to downplay the idea of having tunnel vision, everyone should commend xenophobic tendencies. Bravo.

As for correcting on terminology and differing viewpoints, an effort was definitely made. Why were those posts conveniently ignored by this guy, leaving the ones who weren't offensive (ATW, etc..) to pick up those arguments.

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I believe I found you one

 

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And then broseph here throws out this gem.

I think misanthropy is the only logical road for me at this point :grin:

 

Thanks for the props!

I think some of the difficulty with accepting this truth is that it's so unique. The dynamics are just so incredible - a tiny uneducated tribe who were abusing every single human right became best friends with another tribe who hit GOLD a year later. How crazy is that?

I'm pretty sure that if I had those kinds of resources, I would be able to turn people to my interpretation of Islam as well.

 

Tallanvor, why did you ignore my post?

I addressed all your fears and showed you that your facts are bent out of shape. WOuldn't that be an awesome outcome? If you realized you were wrong and didn't have to hate the entire religion and that there's a specific basket of apples which you could focus your attention on?

 

Btw, it's being attacked by Muslims and Christians. They are called Palestinians.

Also, they are not attacking Jews, they are attacking Israelis, and among the casualties are Israeli Arab Muslims.

The reason this conflict is happening is because there is a group of people who used to have a country who don't have a country anymore. They used to have a country where Jews lived with them. Whether you call it Israel or Palestine, they want a country where they are full citizens, and have a right to self-determination.

 

What freedoms did they lose in Europe?

Also, once again, Palestinians (Christians and Muslims) do not differ on the Israel-Palestine issue.

There is no significance to them being Muslim or not if the Christians are behaving the same way. Right?

 

This is key.

When left alone and given freedom + security, the PEOPLE of Israel and the PEOPLE of Palestine do not want to kill each other either.

It's only when you seperate them, put them in different rooms, feed them lies about each other, and convince them that the other side wants to kill them that the problems begin.

The only issue is the governments. Both governments are out of control and behaving like idiots. On top of that, they are trying to isolate their people more and more, something which will cause more pressure and will make them do increasingly psychotic things.

Thanks for the post, was very insightful!

 

Didn't you hear, I'm forced to wear a bhurqa even though I'm a man and not a woman.

Furthermore I'm not allowed to be Atheist anymore. Actually all religions are outlawed except Islam and surprisingly Scientology (I think they are working together)

We have to burn a American flag 2 times a day, once at 5:00 (I have to get up so early nowadays) and once at 17:00.

We banished all pork from Europe (now there are gigantic herds of million of Pigs in the steppe of Russia).

You cannot believe the horrors I have had to experience since Islam became so popular here

For the lesser intelligent people on this board, this all was sarcasm, it didn't actually happen.

Of course I cannot speak for all countries in Europe. I can only speak for the Netherlands. It is not affecting our freedom in any way.

 

What exactly makes you tolerant of Islam? I haven't seen anything in this thread to suggest that. Just because you love the people who believe in it does not make you tolerant of it.

 

Why would he have to be tolerant of it if he perceives it to be intolerant?

 

He doesn't have to be tolerant (although I would prefer it), but he shouldn't claim that is tolerant if he isn't. At least that is my humble opinion.

 

Because I don't believe your perception of Islam is correct. I would be very happy if your interpretation were accurate, but current events tell me otherwise. I can't name one Islamic nation that doesn't have a horrible human rights record.

 

i can't name one "christian" nation that doesn't have a horrible human rights record.

 

"Tolerate" means to allow the existence of something. I have stated that I would never deny any Muslim their freedom of religion or use force to prevent their existence.

 

the United States has a great human rights record over the past 30 years.

 

Last 50 years?

 

Even though the Israeli government does not recognize Islam as a religion, Muslims (and every other citizen) still enjoy freedom of religion as protected by the government in Israel.

 

Philippines or at least 1 Central/South American country

 

Wow, that is excellent. If you just add the quote "I love Muslims but I hate Islam," that would be tallanvor spot-on.

 

LOL Really,

Gay Marriage
Death penatly
Abu ghraib
Guantanamo bay
Waterboarding and other torture

Yeah spotless record.