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FIRE ADELMAN! (Yes I am serious)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by persian hoopa, Nov 21, 2007.

  1. gogorocketsno1

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    From the other article Yao was obviously not happy about RA. It's surprising to see Yao express this publicly already. Please fire Adelman or trade Yao!
     
  2. BrooksBall

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    The problem is that Adelman is an offensive-type coach, not a defensive specialist like JVG, yet he is playing weak offensive players for large portions of the game (Alston, Battier, Hayes and Head).

    I believe there is a method behind this madness. Given Van Gundy's ugly departure, he is showing respect to JVG and the players that had success under JVG during the early part of his first season.

    I don't think we need to fire Adelman. He is a smart coach and will eventually make changes toward a more offensively-capable rotation.

    Based on the current roster, this means that Francis and Scola will be seeing much bigger minutes, if not sliding into the starting lineup over Alston and Hayes. Meanwhile, Snyder will start eating away at Head's minutes if Head continues not to develop into anything more than a one trick pony.

    If we don't make any roster changes, I would expect to see this rotation taking shape over the next few weeks:

    Starters:
    Francis
    McGrady
    Battier
    Scola
    Yao

    Rotation players:
    Alston (maybe a little Brooks too when Alston struggles)
    James (Snyder or Head getting minutes when James is shooting bricks)
    Wells
    Hayes
    Mutombo (will play occasionally)

    This would be an 8-9 man rotation on most nights, fitting Adelman's style. We would have 4.5 capable scorers in our starting 5 instead of 2.5 as is currently the case (the .5 belonging to Battier) with 2 strong scorers coming off the bench (James and Wells). Hayes will see less and less minutes as Scola develops while Deke will play only when both Yao and Scola are in foul trouble.
     
  3. MandM's

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    IT'S TIME.


    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...

    Rockets go back to the gutter.

    Happy now?
     
  4. melory

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    Agree ! Fire him damn coach !
    For ten games, I cannot see any better about the offense, but the losing of defense ability ! :mad:
     
  5. SmitingPurpleEm

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    More of the same. No defense. Yao not getting the ball in the post. McGrady forced into tough shots. Guard running around like chickens with no heads.

    How much more of this do we need to see?

    Hiring Adelman was a huge mistake and I'd like to see that mistake corrected ASAP.
     
  6. Rocket River

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    Adelman has til All Star Break

    Rocket River
     
  7. BigBenito

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    So far this season has been pretty funny, in a depressing sort of way, but I'm willing to wait until the playoffs are over before judging him.

    I'm really really hoping he has a plan in mind.
     
  8. ndnguy85

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    I am not going to panic because as long we make it to the playoffs, we will be ok.

    we had 4th, and 5th seed the last 2 time we were in, and yet we lost. So I will take 45 wins and 2nd round, than 65 and first round exit again.

    I do believe there's some kind of testing thing going on with Adelman and the current lineup...for a trade? to give last years players a chance? no clue but something is up.
     
  9. persian hoopa

    persian hoopa Contributing Member

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    NO NO NO! That is WAY too late. If we wait till the All Star Break to make a change we will be in a deep hole and will be lucky to be the 7th or 8th seed at best the way we are going.

    Les Alexander is the best owner we have in Houston. I don't blame him wanting to make a change. He wants us to win big and with JVG taking his sweet ass time to decide to come back he thought we need to go in a new direction.

    One of the best thing about Les is that he is willing to admit a mistake and correct it. Remember during the championship years, he got rid of Calvin from the broadcasts and Turbo. After public outcry, he brought them both back. You think McNair would ever do that with the mistakes he made or Drayton whose ego is bigger than the state of Texas.

    Admit you made a mistake and fix it. Whoever suggested Rudy T nailed it. Rudy T is one of most unassuming, unselfish guys around. He would be perfect to serve as interim head coach. He would craft a system to fit our players and more importantly SF3 and Yao love him. Keeping Adelman around will kill us this year and might poison Yao in him not wanting to be here anymore. Rudy T would come back.
     
  10. saleem

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    Adleman is in someways no different from JVG. Every coach has his own system. Adleman has not been successful in implementing his offensive system but he believes that a certain set of players are more likely to do better than others. That's why Head is ahead of Francis. James is covering for Bonzi since the latter has started struggling at the 2. Francis is left out for now.
    Yao has to buy into what Adleman is trying to do,but he does need to be more aggressive in the low post. Defence is also a big problem,but it's easier to play better defense than offense. Team work is what is missing right now.
    The only two things that I have found encouraging has been the ease at which T-Mac was playing before his injury and Scola's play recently. It's up to the coach to make things clearer to the players and for the guys to execute a game plan.
     
  11. northeastfan

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    Dude. We are *not* making the playoffs this year. Look at the talent in the West. Wake up!
     
  12. javashot

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    rox suk its not just the caoch, but our whole team sux! the coach sux, yao is a puss, tmac should dominate every game and stop being lazy and the rest are all being lame or not getting the chance to use what they got. its like blast from the past. i think jvg reincarnated as rick adelman
     
  13. blastaway

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    NO MATTER WHAT THE RECORD TURNS OUT TO BE, IF IN THE NEXT FIVE GAMES RICK ADELMAN DOESN'T CHANGE THE STARTING LINEUP AND SHAKE UP THE ROTATIONS TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT....FIRE HIS ASS IMMEDIATELY! DONT WAIT UNTIL THE ALLSTAR BREAK, IT WILL BE TOO LATE THEN AND WE WILL BE THE BEST TEAM EVER TO BE IN THE LOTTERY! :( :mad:
     
  14. Laoyi

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    I agree that RA should never be hired by Rox because his play only requires Divac and Miller, not Yao and Shaq. It's a joke that he says he will teach Yao to become another Divac. Yao is way better than Divac when the Divac was in his prime time. RA never plays D, same style as Don nilsson, and I don't see how can he win a champinship without playing D.

    But now since RA is hired, I think he should be given at least one full season to prove his promise when he accepted the job.
     
  15. AstroRocket

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    I just posted this in another thread, but i think it's far more relevant in this one:

    "Seriously, i've come to the realization that our late game collapses and loss of big leads last year were simply due to other, more talented teams adjusting to JVG's extremely well-prepared gameplans that got us those big leads in the first place. Once that happened, it wasn't that JVG didn't adjust, he'd already done that before the game even began, it was just that we simply did not have the talent for any secondary adjustments. We were playing over our heads already. We just had to hold on (and most times, we did).

    At least the players JVG refused to play last year were really out of shape and/or turnover prone. (Though in Kirk's case, i think he was having problems following the extensive scouting reports JVG had prepared, a problem he also had with the Hornets and the similar minded Scott)

    Rick's lackadasical approach to the game and defense is the LAST thing our soft-minded players need. And his player-coach, "let the player's play" philosophy might work with other teams, but when you're throwing out a lineup with two guys that can't shoot, three that can't dribble, four that can't drive, and five that can't finish strong at the rim, you NEED an extremely stuctured offensive philosophy to produce points. Otherwise, get thos mf'ers OFF the floor and put in guys that CAN create for themselves and others and DO possess an array of offensive moves.

    With his coaching style, Rick seriously needs to get guys like Scola, Brooks, Snyder, and Francis, who can shoot OR drive, more PT, and take players that are more one dimensional like Chuck and Rafer (and perhaps even "corner-shot" Shane) out of the damn game.

    It's either that, or plant Yao's ass back in the low post full time, run a million Tracy PnRs, and come to the gym at the crack of dawn every day to figure out a way to win the same way JVG had to. Only, he'll be doing it because he refuses to play our most talented players, instead of simply not having them."
     
  16. topfive

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    Somebody save that one for next year's Clutch Classics.

    Considering we're only a dozen games into the season with a new coach. I'd love it if any of the following got someone banned from ClutchFans for a month:

    * Calling for the firing of Adelman.
    * Calling for the trading of Yao and/or T-Mac.
    * Saying the Rockets will *not* make the playoffs this year.
    * Saying Adelman is ruining Yao.
    * Saying our only hope at this point is a big trade.

    etc.

    It's a shame that bandwagons are so easy to jump back on, because it would be great if all the boneheads bailing out at this early stage were forced to root for another team the rest of the year.
     
  17. JeopardE

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    And the "We want Barabbas" cries grow louder...

    Adelman definitely has to shake things up at this point. He can't keep forcing the issue:

    - Force-feeding the ball to Yao in the lowpost when McGrady is not in and the defense is fronting;
    - Running the same play over and over the 4th quarter;
    - Being unwilling to go deep into the bench when the regular rotation players are not producing.

    Above all, Coach A has to start doing some more in-game coaching. For all the flack that JVG got, some of the guys who are now saying they miss him do have a point. I remember one day JVG pulled all five starters on the floor at once and put in 5 bench players just to send a statement. The message was very well received, and the intensity picked up from that point.

    I knew we would have some growing pains, but -- ouch baby. Ouch. I hate to say it, but our team really, really sucks right now. Do something, Coach A. Do something. You're a better coach than this.
     
  18. northeastfan

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    I'd say that a playoff spot is not a lock. We're currently in 9th in the West. Based on the season so far, I can't honestly say that we're better than any of the eight teams above us. McGrady has a gimpy elbow and we're still waiting for his bad back to show up. Even bad teams don't have any problem scoring against our D. Our offense is actually *worse* than last year too. Is there any reason for optimism?
     
  19. SmitingPurpleEm

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    Adelman IS ruining Yao. A poster reported a conversation with Adelman where Adelman said he envisioned Yao's future as a Vlade Divac. What the hell is that? Yao's post game is FAR FAR superior to Divac's. That confirms all my fears about Adelman and makes me want to rip his head off. It is undeniable that Adelman is ruining Yao.
     
  20. northeastfan

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    Maybe Adelman is going to Yao how to flop like Divac.
     

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