"Find Yao" not work coz of Chinese culture!

Posts like this always do crack me up. Please do tell me, what is a typical Chinese, cuz I sure as hell have no clue. I mean, I keep hearing things such as Chinese people are honest, humble, blah blah. Well, obviously anybody who says that has never been to urban China. Chinese people are not humble and are FAR from being honest.

And then there is the Chinese people are taught not to dominate bullcrap. Yeah, that happened for all of about 20 years under the Commies in the 50's to 70's because Mao said friendship first competition second. So it's funny when somebody comes in and say don't dominate when Chinese people love a hero more than anybody.

Then there is the Chinese people are not aggressive line. Well, if you only knew the kind of bus fights that happen routinely in Beijing.

But nooooooo, there always is some random idiot trying to give you the "typical Chinese." I doubt they even know what it is.

 

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I saw some of this Asian culture stuff when we studied Tae Kwon Do with a Korean Master years ago - he was 8th degree. The young assistant was a 5th, and was married to an American woman. Every time the senior master told the young guy to do something, even if it interfered with his personal family schedule, he would do it without complaint and would not attempt to ask the Master to change the timing or see if someone else could do it. And then his wife would get royally pissed because her schedule was hosed, sometimes by some pretty minor or last minute requests.

So what does this have to do with Yao?

Maybe he feels he could be better utilized in the schemes but is totally unwilling to speak up to Gundy and even suggest alternatives? hmmmm Gundy tells him to climb Shaq Mountain for 48 minutes, Yao must climb it the way Gundy wants, even if Yao feels there is a better way.....

I'm feeling my Tao about Yao and that's enough for now!

 

You don't see Yao screaming all over the place when he executes a good play? That's some agression right there if you ask me. In all the chinatown's i've been too and the world, i've yet to meet a culture where everyone or majority is "humble peaceful blah blah." It's not like you guys are sat down 24/7 and taught by your parents and teachers to be humble and nice.

China is a nation dominated by communist leaders.

Culture are just guidelines but nobody really follows them.
C'mon, chinese people are a nation of PEOPLE, not graceful nature-loving harmony bull****ting Elves.

 

if you've watched all (or most of) the games yao played in the asian champ you'd realize that he's humble, team win first. why? cuz in those games he could dunk on anyone at every single chance he touched the ball but he chose not to. unless he's provoked and ager got better of him.

i'm not saying that manchild hit the nail on the head but i believe there is some truth in it. chinese culture is totally different from the americans. one example, yao was taught, when was just starting, that dunking on ppl was not polite thing to do and not couraged.

for those dragged the "communist" argument in, save it. it's almost like a fashion - bashing the commies every chance you get. it's so old i believe we are talking about how much chinese culture has to do with yao's on court performance here and the communist regime has little, if any to do with the chinese culture.

 

What you have right there is what we call a contradiction. You can't talk about a culture without talking about the people that make up that culture. It's like saying the family sucks but everyone in it are nice people. Yao being nice or soft is because thats the person he is. You don't teach someone to be soft or aggressive, that's the type of person they're genetically made to be.

 

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Your post was acceptable up to this point you anthropological dipsh!t. Culture is defined by the people they're not "guidelines." Although I don't agree with ManChild's post, you're not much better.

 

*******,,, i normally don't post, but with this bull**** going on... let me set the record straight, damnit! i was born and raised in the US of A. i consider myself american before anything else. yo, i am a hip hop artist out here in asia. i done been to taiwan and china. what did i hear above all else when i was at these places? "this is taiwan! this is china!" and yo, i respect that... but right now, this is the NBA season, kellogs! YAO is here in america... THIS IS AMERICA!!! of course Taiwan is cool with that because Taiwan is a democratic nation. so you know what? in a way, without getting too political, YAO is with us... i am of chinese descent, i am atually a pretty well known artist in chinese speaking asia. but yo, i could get in trouble with all this, but it don't matter. look for me at your chinatown record stores: WITNESS... ok? but yo, i have followed the rockets since '83. Life Goes On,,, DO NOT GET INFLUENCED BY YOF!!!! ONE LOVE!!!

 

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This only shows whatever "teaching" you received is stupid.... yeah let's not find yao but try "find Derek Anderson"

Does the Chinese huminity "teaching" includes "hey hey look at me look at me I find something new" (where in fact it was crap and old)

I think my conclusion is all Chinese are r****ded ? or maybe it's just you.

 

howcome all of you have to jump on this guy's post that tries to explain what he feels Yao Ming is going through? These cultural arguments make sense, that's why Yao was here all these years to learn the American game, and American culture. It doesn't mean that he won't adjust as a human being, but what (as a person) was expected of him was different when he's in China from he's here. He totally had to educate himself of the word "Dominate" because there is not a straight translation of that word in Chinese. If he doesn't even know what the word meant at first, how long would it take for him to learn doing it by heart? This is legitimately one of the factors that does have a role in Yao's adapting here.

Yes, Manchild had used other comment that imply Yao won't change much, but that's his opinion. Please try to discuss, ponder, or leave reservation about (ignore) his point, but we dont have to outright dismiss his argument like that!?

 

I know I get flammed for this all the time, but I do agree that traditional Chinese culture places more focus on community and rsepecting authority than the American culture. Now, don't get offended. I'm not saying ALL Chinese people fall under this category. I'm just making an obervation about the traditional cultural tendencies.

Of course, traditinoal Chinese culture is also counter-balanced with the infusion of westernization and capitalism experienced in cosmoplitan cities like Shanghai and Taipei. However, traditional Chinese culture remains a strong influence in many people's lives.

Whether Yao's life is strongly influenced by traditional Chinese culture, well, I don't know.

His timid nature could be a combination of many things. Maybe it has something to do with working within the Chinese military system; maybe the idea of being China's basketball ambassador is drilled into his skull; maybe he has repressed his anger for all his life because he knows one blow from him could kill someone.

The important thing is that Yao needs to learn how to separate his basketball persona and his real persona. He can remain being a nice guy off the courts and channel a mean streak towards basketball.

Look at Shaq, for example. Some people think he is a badass Mofo, but he is really one of the gentler souls in the NBA. He has gotten into very few fights, and if you consider the unprecedented amount of punishment he takes down in the paint on every single possession, he is probably relatively more timid than most players in the league in terms of his willingness to retaliate.

Shaq has learned to channel his anger into more positive things and has remained a nice guy off the court while being a punishing (within the rules) presence on the court.

Yao can do the same.

 

I would just like to remind everybody of Yao's somewhat recent tirade against his teammates on the national team after a loss.

One can debate the relative merits of changing Yao's personality or which type of cultural mindset, but that incident is to me is fairly strong evidence that Yao's behavior is at least somewhat mutable. Before he spent time in NBA he would have never done that sort of thing.

Personally I think that Yao is a better player by striking a balance and keeping most of what we are calling "Chinese" tendancies. He's a good team guy but has enough drive and desire that he's not a Shawn Bradley-like milquetoast.

I would be a bit worried if he started acting like Terell Owens.

 

you followed rockets since '83.....are u one of the "LA boyz"? (you guys form another hip hop group called "Matchie" , right?)

 

Seeing the topic my first thought was nth good will come out of this thread. My 2nd thought was wow this topic is even older than me.

Anyway, please drop this. Let's just focus on the game, like Yao does.

 

if anybody read the recent book excerpt that was in Time Magazine (at least the asian version) a few weeks ago, it's pretty clear that Yao's domineering mother, Fang, a former hardcore red guardswoman who's been micromanaging his life since day 1, is probably more responsible for his inhibitions than anything else.