Facebook is essentially a cryopreservation source for your future holograms when your dead. It's going to be a data source your hologram can source to have conversations with your family and friends. Don't discount the future. Data collection is good.
It has successfully become the modern day telephone address book.. and photo storage default. How bad is it that they know where im at since I have gps turned on? Or are they turning back on my gps location and selling that? If yes ...that is a problem. If im sitting behind proxies and vpns using facebook how much 'better' off am I? Incognito ? I can live off the grid in denali, delete facebook, where am I really getting? How bad is it really that they know my movements and what my kids look like? You can do nefarious things with anything of course. If you have gps turned on, have facebook turned on, you have to assume 100% is shareable, seeable. I think what is stupid is not knowing otherwise. I guess from a conditioning standpoint seeing some concerted effort to sway a certain choice is possible. I feel i might have become victim to a snopes type scenario myself. With stileproject then fark now reddit - ive seen enough grossero on the internet to fill a large thimble. I will believe an article that tells me a congresswoman took a dump on a conference table because ive seen it on liveleak 27 times. So swaying is of course a bad thing..but more so because it works and we as people are gullible and read stuff then believe. Not sure what to do with that? grain of salt approach but even I believed some of the wmd hocus pocus at the time. Or at least the possibility of. Facebook suck rah rah rah but it has been nice to connect with old friends. I have found people i otherwise would have lost touch. My cousin sent a message the other day through facebook. She is in another country and it was nice. Just a short hello I love you and yes I could have used myspace or kik or multitude of million ways to connect with her ..but facebook is the worldwide telephone book. Pretty neat if you ask me. The gps tracking or not feature probably needs some gov laws around it and right to vpn tor etc. I read someone say they use the lite version of facebook for countries that have crap intermet and it may/ may not be as stalky as normal facebook is.
Facebook knows it is at risk of going extinct, which is why they swallow other social media platforms like Instagram and What's App to hedge their bets. Once a platform achieves enough network effect to make it hard to give up for an alternative, Facebook takes it over and mines/sells the user data. The only solution, and the real threat to the Google/Facebook data-mining, content-controlling, censoring monster, is to create a decentralized means of content curation, preservation, monetization. Something that combines the two most important protocols, BitTorrent (for content sharing) and BitCoin (for monetization, to pay the content creator and also to pay people for hosting the content on their computer) in an open source way that is owned/controlled not by any singular entity, but by a distributed network of individual nodes.
I have a facebook account, but I literally haven't posted a single thing in the 6 or so years I've had it. It serves it's purpose as being a wider net of people that I'm in contact with, without actually having to be in contact with them on a regular basis. If somebody wants to get in contact with me, or if somebody is putting together a shindig I might want to partake in. I've actually refound a few friends I lost contact with over the years thanks to facebook. I have no interest in having my actual personal details out there on my page, but others people posting stupid s**t isn't actually harming me, so all in all I'm still pretty cool with how it works for me.
I use fb for memes and talking to people. There is no reason in my opinion to use it for anything else. Society as a whole is losing a lot of privacy in our lives.
These are all fair points. I don't have any criticism for people who stay or for people who leave. Personally, I think there are some very smart people hard at work to figure out ways to monetize my personal exchanges, photos and jokes. For me (and doesn't have to be this way for anyone else), I just have come to dislike that, and I don't really love my time on the interface anyway. Like you, it's wonderful to keep up with friends at a distance, and I may still try that in a reduced way. Then FB can come to model me as a zany expat or something. Strangely, at some level, even though all of you are completely nuts and anonymous to me, I kind of prefer donating to Clutch and knowing that he's not monetizing my identity and personality, [Jorge] except for all the thousands of extra page views my posts bring to his site. [/Jorge] The point being that, just like a FB business site, I kind of understand and deeply accept the transaction. When using a personal FB page, no matter how much I study up (and I don't have much time for that anyway), I'm afraid I'll never actually fully understand the transaction, and that the transaction (what of me they are selling) will be ever-changing under the surface.
...I played a fun game a couple days ago called Revoke the App. What you do is, go into your Facebook settings, click the Apps icon on the left rail, and then feast your eyes on up to a decade’s worth of giving your data to Facebook apps for free. To win the game, you have to revoke every app from accessing your Facebook data. It’s a wild ride, too. I found an app called “NorthKorea” that didn’t have an icon, and I have no memory of signing up for NorthKorea. Yet there I was, wondering what it had been collecting. https://gizmodo.com/why-we-finally-feel-betrayed-by-facebook-1824032214 _______ This is an interesting article.
If I leave Facebook, it won’t be because of anything Zuckerberg et al has done, it will be because I’ve just gotten tired of my own friends and family trying to sell me something I don’t want or need from their latest MLM scheme.
More info... _______ Facebook scraped call, text message data for years from Android phones This past week, a New Zealand man was looking through the data Facebook had collected from him in an archive he had pulled down from the social networking site. While scanning the information Facebook had stored about his contacts, Dylan McKay discovered something distressing: Facebook also had about two years' worth of phone call metadata from his Android phone, including names, phone numbers, and the length of each call made or received. This experience has been shared by a number of other Facebook users who spoke with Ars, as well as independently by us—my own Facebook data archive, I found, contained call-log data for a certain Android device I used in 2015 and 2016, along with SMS and MMS message metadata. Calls I made to my office number to check my voicemail, and from my office number to find my phone, found in my Facebook data archive. In total, there were two years of call data, from the period I used my Blackphone as my primary phone. To retrieve a .zip file of your Facebook data, go to the Settings page on Facebook and click the link circled in this screen shot. In response to an email inquiry by Ars about this data gathering, a Facebook spokesperson replied, "The most important part of apps and services that help you make connections is to make it easy to find the people you want to connect with. So, the first time you sign in on your phone to a messaging or social app, it's a widely used practice to begin by uploading your phone contacts." The spokesperson pointed out that contact uploading is optional and installation of the application explicitly requests permission to access contacts. And users can delete contact data from their profiles using a tool accessible via Web browser. Facebook uses phone-contact data as part of its friend recommendation algorithm. And in recent versions of the Messenger application for Android and Facebook Lite devices, a more explicit request is made to users for access to call logs and SMS logs on Android and Facebook Lite devices. But even if users didn't give that permission to Messenger, they may have given it inadvertently for years through Facebook's mobile apps—because of the way Android has handled permissions for accessing call logs in the past. If you granted permission to read contacts during Facebook's installation on Android a few versions ago—specifically before Android 4.1 (Jelly Bean)—that permission also granted Facebook access to call and message logs by default. The permission structure was changed in the Android API in version 16. But Android applications could bypass this change if they were written to earlier versions of the API, so Facebook API could continue to gain access to call and SMS data by specifying an earlier Android SDK version. Google deprecated version 4.0 of the Android API in October 2017—the point at which the latest call metadata in Facebook users' data was found. Apple iOS has never allowed silent access to call data. Facebook provides a way for users to purge collected contact data from their accounts, but it's not clear if this deletes just contacts or if it also purges call and SMS metadata. After purging my contact data, my contacts and calls were still in the archive I downloaded the next day—though this may be because the archive was still the same cache I had requested on Friday. As always, if you're really concerned about privacy, you should not share address book and call-log data with any mobile application. And you may want to examine the rest of what can be found in the downloadable Facebook archive, as it includes all the advertisers that Facebook has shared your contact information with, among other things. https://arstechnica.com/information...t-message-data-for-years-from-android-phones/
Zuckerberg takes out ads to apologize as Facebook data misuse crisis intensifies https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech...ook-data-misuse-crisis-intensifies/456953002/
I've been off for about 2 years now. Social media isn't really my thing. I'm 26 and see so many people my age not accomplishing anything because they spend so much time on social media and just distract themselves constantly rather than learning or bettering themselves. I have too many things I want to do to spend so much time on Facebook or any other platform.
We've never had an interest in it, being more interested in protecting our privacy, so we never signed up. We have friends who use it and tell us about other friends that are on there, but since most of us are old as dirt (except for kids and grandkids), and look like it (with one or two exceptions), I prefer to remember most of them from when we were in our 20's, 30's, and 40's, and still had some hair (in the guy's case) or those perky breasts (yeah, I went there). I have hundreds of great images of us having huge parties at Paleface, sailing in Galveston Bay, hiking at Big Bend, or sitting around someone's pad getting loaded. I just don't need Facebook.
I deleted Facebook several years ago, and don't miss it. It was weird at first but I got over it completely within a few days. My reason for quitting: old "friends" and acquianttances adding me, and me soon remembering why I had severed ties with them in the first place. I found myself wondering, "why are these people so stupid? / does everyone else know this many stupid people or is this somehow my doing? / am I this stupid and I just don't realize it? I don't think so but I doubt any of these stupid mofos think they're stupid either, so who knows. /etc etc." Also I remember at some point that it seemed like Facebook went from a casual time waster to serious business. On a Veterans Day I posted a picture of a smiling veterinarian holding a kitty and said something like "thanks to all the vets". Now, one could say that this was dumb/not clever/annoying/whatever, and that would not be incorrect (forgive me, I was young). However I did not anticipate the anger it would inspire, even from my own relatives. I was really surprised by that and began to notice other instances where the most innocuous thing would be met with over the top reactions. Around that time I realized that Facebook just isn't for me anymore. I don't want anything serious on a platform like that, and can go the rest of my life without another internet argument. So after some months of just never logging in at all, I deleted the damn thing after going through and deleting all the content I had ever added and untagging myself from any photos. My wife has an account and I prefer just hearing about family developments filtered through her.
i have a empty shell facebook login for a few apps but my profile doesn't have anything in it. What's interesting though is how integrated advertising has become. I talked about new zeland to a friend of mine..texting/google search on the desktop...who knows..next thing you know i see an ad in my instagram feed. if a few months from now if they said our conversations were being listened to with the mics on our phone..i wouldnt be surprised. PS. i deleted snapchat a month ago and i don't miss it one bit.
