[Film]'First Man' omits the American flag being planted on the moon

Crazy thoughts are a dozen a dime. But you aren't responsible for your own thoughts, until you take them as truth.

 

Yes.
1. Deliberately made a movie about Americans at their best.
2. Deliberately made the movie focus on an amazingly skilled and courageous American, Armstrong.
3. Deliberately employed some of the finest Apollo engineers to help them get everything accurate. (But sure, you know best. Forget those guys.)
4. Deliberately distilled a five day mission (and lead up to it) into about two hours.

And now you and yours are deliberately finding a truly dumb way to snowflake over it.

Just be consistent: DEMAND they show the flag being knocked over. DEMAND they show the difficulty freeing the flag from its little case.

LOL. So freaking insincere. Y'all don't care about Apollo, or Armstrong, or really America 's finest moments. You care about being offended by the flag via any means necessary.

Filmmakers may as well have cast Kap, w special fro space helmet, as Armstrong.

 

Trump uses the flag as his personal toilet paper and you cry about a movie?

 

The debate from the right is so insincere. Everyone knows you guys are searching for a poltical motivational tool anywhere you can find them. The faux outrage is transparent and your fake patriotism is abhorrent.

 

You do realize that "The Right Stuff" was mocking the US Space Program, not capturing it's spirit?

Kinda hilarious that you didn't realize the whole thing is satirical. In reality, the book/movie is about how political the space race was - and that indeed, the people with the real right stuff like Yeager were passed over for other guys who'd have college degrees and would make better "American Hero's"

 

If you think Wolfe was mocking the space program or those that participated as not having The Right Stuff, you didn't get that book at all. Wolfe absolutely thought the Mercury astronauts had The Right Stuff.

The space race was political and had superficial/hypocritical aspects, but it was also a justifiable source of national pride! The film captured that dichotomy perfectly.

 

He wasn't mocking the mercury pilots, but the idea that a monkey could have done their job wasn't flattering either. He definitely was mocking the program though. Wolfe is a great writer, but a nationalist he is not. The test pilots were by far more deserving to be astronauts, but the thing is that you didn't need them, you needed monkeys. But it wouldn't bring the national pride if you used monkeys. So they found humans to do it instead.

The real accomplishment of the space race wasn't by the astronauts. It was by the engineers.

 

Oh holy ****, you win this thread.

 

I don't care enough to be offended, but the entire point of the massive mobilization/resources dedicated to the space race was to be the first country to get there. That's what the planting of the flag represents. And it was deliberately removed in the film to obscure this reality.

 

Thx but nah: Fox wins again. They're whip smart at dividing.

Just talked w my octogenarian 'rents. They've already heard this is a bad, innacurate movie. ... And my Dad, mind you, is an Apollo engineer. Friends of his helped them MAKE this new movie.

So, take something that could unite us all, make us nostalgic or proud together, and find a way to make it divisive. Brilliant, darkly.

 

I agree w most of this post, but the book is light years better than the movie. That's usually the case w a great book though. I agree w you very much on Wolfe's take.

 

You're kidding right? Wolfe is constantly ripping on the program throughout the book. How can you say he was making it a point of national pride???

 

Is the focus of the film about the space race and that American won it?

 

Three pages wow.

The Zionists almost snuck one past the Red Brigade!

 

The movie barely even mentions the space race. So it makes sense for the movie not to show planting the United States flag. The movie has a laser-sharp focus and everything outside of that focus minimalized and removed from the story.

It wasn't done to obscure reality. It was done to focus the film and keep it minimal, unsentimental and sharp.

 

This movie wasn't about the space race. That's why there is no focus on it. The movie didn't attempt to capture the American spirit. That was never the purpose of the movie. Nor was it meant to degrade the American Spirit or keep anyone from celebrating that spirit.

 

It is especially sad, seriously, how few people take it down at night and treat it properly.

Good for Buzz.

 

It's just free market. The rest of the world pays a lot of money to make the movie more enjoyable to them by eliminating the colonial-style planting of a flag on a moon that belongs to no one or everyone. Getting there first doesn't mean owning it. Getting there first is an incredible feat though.

I know that's a highly unpopular thing to hear on an American board, just sharing what I'm sure the producers thought about when making this decision.