[Feigen] Xavier Henry and Paul George Rocket's other 2 picks

Anybody remember Loren Woods falling to the T-Wolves at #46 in 2001?

That would be as good an analog for Whiteside as I can imagine. That dude was basically a very large, very athletic child as well. On draft night all the "measurables" people were scratching their head when he fell to the middle of the second round.

If your head is not right, you can't become an NBA player, no matter how much "potential" you have.

Part of the difference between picking up a guy in the second round and the first, is that if you get a turd in the second round, you can flush him right away. Because of the contracts, first rounders linger for their 3 and stink up the room.

 

Maybe I should have clarified my post. Cousins and Favors may not be shut out by someone like Armstrong, but they would find difficulty in even getting close to beating him 1-on-1. If they played today, I would pick Armstrong over Whiteside, Favors, or Cousins 10 times out of 10. I'm not trying to discredit these young kids, it's just that NBA players have been through it before. They've played with the best basketball players in the world and have top-notch coaches and trainers at their disposal. Thus, I'll go with experience over potential. Ask me this question again in 5 years and I'll side with Favors, Cousins, and Whiteside. Chances are all 3 of them will turn out better than Armstrong (Whiteside may be a little iffy), but for now I gotta go with experience, no matter how good the potential looks.

Also, just to be sure, I was talking about a game of 1-on-1, not necessarily an NBA game (or even a scrimmage at that).

 

This needs to be reiterated.

 

I'm surprise the Rockets wasn't more high on Cole Aldrich. I was reading Jason Friedman's chat during the draft and he said the Rockets was cheering when he was picked 10th since it meant that they still had a chance to pick Patterson. Aldrich would of been perfect for them imo.

 

Damn, leebigez is rich.

 

Once again, I'd like to mention that I was considering 1-on-1 games. Regular season stats and performance are different animals. I believe the first post I quoted mentioned that Armstrong beat Whiteside 5-0 in a 1-on-1 game, so that's what I was addressing.

 

Bima, when was the last time the 31st pick signed for nba minimum? I fully understand what you're saying, but I'm saying if the player turns out to be good, the team would have him an extra year before becoming restricted.

Last year, the 25th pick signed had a 1st yr salary of 890k or somewhere in there vs chase and taylor who werent even the 31st pick at 750k. Now i understand how quick the team has to make decisions based on the option years. I understand if the player is just showing flashes vs being consistent. Lets use chase as an example.

Lets say martin goes down and chase blows up like 17 ppg 5rebs 5asst. Yes he's still on that 2nd rd pick money for 1 more year after this one then he's restricted am i correct? If he was the 27 pick and did the same thing, he wouldnt be restricted till after his 4th year correct? Plus the team could start negotiating with him after his 3rd yr,correct. We can use boozer as a modern example also. If he was a late first, cleveland would have had his services for 4 yrs before anything happened. He showed his worth early and was restricted after his 2nd season.Now I'm not blaming the rules for his departure, but by getting picked 1 spot earlier and he would probably still be in cleveland. This has nothing to do with whiteside and really just about seeing a player late first, spending the cash and getting the player. Like someone said before, maybe there was no one morey wanted.

 

That would be Jeff Pendergraph, just last year. That's as "recent" as it gets.

The Blazers used a portion of the MLE to sign Pendergraph to a three-year deal. But the first year's salary was the equivalent of the league minimum. His second and third year salaries were also essentially league minimum salary, with "make good" incentives in order for them to each be guaranteed in the first place.

In 2008, the Wolves took Nikola Pekovic and stashed him overseas.

In 2007, the Rockets signed Carl Landry to a straight-up, plain vanilla, one-year league minimum contract.

Yeah, I'd say the #31 pick getting the league minimum is fairly common.

Did you not read my post? Roddy Beaubois (the #25 pick) made $1,075,440 last year.

No, that is incorrect. Chase's third year is non-guaranteed for $884k (the equivalent of the league minimum). After that, Chase has a FOURTH non-guaranteed year at $942k. (FYI, there's also a team option on the fourth year, but it's totally stupid, since there's no reason not to exercise it on a NON-guaranteed year.) THAT is why both Chase's and Jermaine's deals are so appealing and why Morey is a wizard.

Boozer was the sixth pick of the second round. Not the first.

The Cavs actually signed Boozer to a three-year deal with a team option on Year 3 at $695,000. They LET Boozer out of his deal with an understanding that he would re-sign to a nice-sized deal with Cleveland. Then, he screwed them over.



Yeah . . . that post didn't go too well for you.

 

Didn't fanhouse report that Whiteside has ADD (attention deficit disorder) for which he was taking medication? And that recently he went off his meds because of side effects. ADD would make it difficult for him to focus