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Feigen: ROX wont spend $, cuz they have it - will go after Nene, not 2nd tier players

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by HMMMHMM, Oct 28, 2011.

  1. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    I'd be happy with Nene, but would only pay 8-9m per for 3 years. Not a star IMO.

    He' not a good rebounder, which really brings his value down.
     
  2. larsv8

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    Nene is on Martin's caliber and is better than Scola.

    You sign him so you can move Scola, which essentially creates a trade asset out of nothing.

    Suppose you amnesty Thabeet, and offer Nene 11-13 million.

    You could then move Scola to the bucks for guy like Iguodala or maybe to the bucks in a deal to nab a guy like Moute. Moving forward you have a great team to entice Dwight over and some trade assets.

    We still have rights to guys like Parson, Newley, Llull, to fill in rosters slots.
     
  3. Joe Joe

    Joe Joe Go Stros!
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    Thabeet will not get amnesty. He will be let go when contract is up before 2012-2013 season. Scola is a more likely amnesty cut due to the years left on contract.
     
  4. larsv8

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    Scola has value, Thabeet doesn't.

    I can pretty much guarantee you Scola will not be amnestied unless Howard or Paul has agreed to come here.
     
  5. Joe Joe

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    And that is the reason Thabeet doesn't get the amnesty. Scola and Thabeet's value doesn't matter as they are both worse than Howard and Paul. Scola will be owed about 10 mil in 2012-2013. Thabeet will be owed $0.

    The little bit of unneeded cap flexibility this offseason that would be gained by using amnesty on Thabeet just isn't worth it as it may be needed to acquire a superstar.
     
  6. larsv8

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    And clearing Scola is not needed to sign a max guy next offseason. We only have 31 million dollars comitted going into the summer of Dwight, which includes Scola.
     
  7. meh

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    Actually, a bit more than you think

    Scola 9.4
    Martin 12.9
    Patterson 2
    Lowry 5.7
    CBud 1
    Morris+Donatas ~3+
    2012 1st round picks ~3+(assuming the Rockets don't hit the lottery jackpot)

    Add some roster fillers for less than a mil each, and you're really looking at about $40 mil give or take. Enough to sign Howard if the max is still near where it was. But not as much as you'd think.

    Personally, I'm still in favor of moving Scola if only because Patterson looked so great. But definitely more in favor of trading him for expirings and picks(no need to be good ones) rather than using amnesty clause. And really, our chances of obtaining Howard has less to do with cap room and more to do with having enough talent to lure him here. Morey will find the capspace if necessary. Hence why I'm a huge proponent of heavy, heavy, tanking.
     
  8. aeolus13

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    Do you think so? Given his age, contract, and recent surgery, I can't imagine many teams would give us much for him.
     
  9. larsv8

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    You are seriously underating him.

    He has been an ironman and his game doesn't rely on athleticism at all.
     
  10. ascaptjack

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    Since we are talking about 2nd tier FA centers, Chandler thinks he won't be able to re-sign with the Mavs with this current CBA proposal by the owners.

    http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story...ers-proposal-keep-re-signing-dallas-mavericks

    Would we be able to offer more $$$ than the Mavs?
     
  11. HMMMHMM

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    Unless I'm missing something, no.

    There still will be bird rights and there won't be a hard cap, meaning Dallas can offer Chandler a max deal, if they so choose.

    The Rockets at best (cutting Blakely, Cousin & using the amnesty clause on Thabeet) would be able to offer about 13.5mil.

    What I think Chandler is referring to is the new luxury tax, tough I'm not convinced that will hinder Cuban from matching any reasonable offer.
     
  12. Commodore

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    Scola is the perfect reliable workhorse that can play beside a star and carry a team when needed.

    Teams would love to have him, and he probably makes more sense on a team that can compete this year.

    I don't mind trading him, but cutting him for nothing but cap space would be nuts.
     
  13. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Chandler is wrong, the Mavs can clear the room with the Amnesty clause, and getting rid of their backup center.

    DD
     
  14. ascaptjack

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    Brendan Haywood? I doubt they amnesty him, if the Warriors won't amnesty Biedrins, what makes you think a championship team like the Mavs would?

    Productive centers are rare in today's game, so if you have one, you better keep him.
     
  15. dobro1229

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    The smart thing for the Mavs to do is to Amnesty Haywood to open up cap space to re-sign Chandler. Ian Mahinmi can provide minutes just as productive as Haywood can.
     

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