Feigen explaining the purpose/effect of the Courtney Lee move

Hercules!!! Hercules!!!

 

1.) No, we don't. You can't sign and trade a player who signs an offer sheet. I suppose there's a chance Gordon says a sign and trade to Houston is better than a straight match, and never signs the offer sheet, but I'd say forget it. People keep dreaming up those sorts of things, but there's just no precedent to a player reneging on a verbal agreement during the moratorium (Edit: moratorium, not lockout).

2.) Your guess is as good as mine. We may be able to do a TMac like trade for him at the deadline and pick up a couple of useful pieces. Part of that will depend how much further he sinks his trade value by pouting/sitting out/generally being disinterested. At the least, he'll be an expiring contract for someone. Lamb probably isn't ready to start off the bat, so it may be a way to ease him in.

3.) Not a foregone conclusion. See: http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/sto...s-visit-houston-rockets-wednesday-sources-say. Basically, it's kind of like the Asik situation. Publicly, they're making all the statements about matching, but we'd have to wait and see if they'd do it.

4.) No idea at this point.

5.) At this point it looks like an unlikely scenario, which is really, really unfortunate. At the same time, there's a lot of teams chasing point guards, so we would hopefully get decent value there.

 

Bro, those are some pretty rich assumptions. Dwight is not looking likely but perhaps we want to keep our flexibility on a dwight deal at all costs. Lin as a bluff sounds right, but it's a pretty weak bluff. I wish I could share your optimism that a Dragic deal gets done.

 

Thanks for clearing up #1 and #3 Nike. Didn't realize the Lowry McHale relationship was beyond repair.

 

Did anyone watch the Bucks last year? :grin:

 

It can't be Dragic. Because Dragic already counts as a cap hold on the Rockets books. Renouncing Lee doesn't give the Rockets more room to sign Dragic. Even if Dragic re-signs, you be it will be AFTER the Rockets sign everyone else first. Because he counts only $4-5mil against the cap right now, and will count more after re-signing(if he does).

IMO, despite public sentiment on clutchfans, Morey isn't a total dick to players. And Lee's not so important to the Rockets future where they should resort to cheap tactics to retain him.

 

That contract, mixed wiith his talent and reputation (positive) v the $$$s thrown around for 38-year young Nash, Goran, Lin = great trade asset!

 

They haven't renounced Lee yet, though, just rescinded his qualifying offer. I too was curious about this, but I think Lee can exercise his qualifying offer at any time -- which would throw a huge wrench into the Asik agreement.

I think they were just being transparent with Lee, as they would like to resign him if things with Asik go wrong.

 

That part hurts. They could have gotten something good back in trade.

I'm sure if they knew then what they know now, they would have traded him at the deadline.

Of course, hindsight is always 20/20...

 

So how do we now clear up $7.5 million or so in cap space to give Lin a poison pill contract offer? Renouncing Dragic only clears up about $4 million in cap hold dollars.

 

we had a chance to clear up 7 mill by waiving the 3 scubs from the bucks but morey wants to keep them as trade bait. To bad the will be on the final roster at end of the season cause no one wants to deal with houston right now

 

I don't see us giving Lin a contract. The Knicks are sure to match it.


I am wondering if Morey is trying to sell Lin on coming to Houston and seeing if he can get the Knicks involved in a trade of Lowry for Lin. Just dropping a bunch of contract to offer Lin a deal that the Knicks have been clear that they are going to match doesn't make sense.

 

Might we have done this now to give Chicago a chance to spend some money on Lee, and make the less likely to match Asik?

 

1) if match, hornets won't trade him. with #1 pick, they need gordon.

2) no clue at all. i personally believe he won't be here next season.

3) at least some espn experts believed knicks will be hesitated to match with a poison pill contract. lin is a backup plan after dragic and rox far apart. it's not bad a plan B.

4) i am not sure if i am right or not but i believe dragic is unrestricted free agent not restricted. it's reason we haven't heard anything about qualified offer for him to make him restricted free agent. if i am correct, matching is out of question. i doubt dragic will take same contract from rox if he gets it from other team. the bridge seems to be burned down.

5) most ppl believe patching is out of question.

 

Dragic just wants something better than a Dynex.

 

Not too difficult.

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?p=6979889#post6979889

 

Dragic is a unrestricted free agent. he doesn't count anything to our cap unless he accepts our offer. i am not sure where you come up with 4 mil cap hold.

if you are talking about lee, yes his qualifying offer does count to our cap.

 

Sorry, but you don't really know what you're talking about.

Free agents count against the cap as a percentage of their previous salary (usually 150-250%, depending on their tenure and contract). This is known as a "cap hold". For teams over the cap, it doesn't matter -- you can go over the cap to resign your own free agents provided they haven't been cut or outright signed by a new team in the last 3 years (2 years as well, though scenario changes slightly).

Dragic therefore has a "cap hold" until he signs, or the Rockets renounce it. The Rockets would prefer to make other moves first to use up their cap room, as they can exceed the cap to resign Dragic. In the mean time, he counts for $4 million. If the Rockets renounce their rights to Dragic, they could still potentially resign him, but they wouldn't be able to exceed the cap.

Just want to make sure you don't confuse anyone else.

 

jason terry signed with boston for only 5 mill a year. Lee and Dragic need to man up and take what they are worth

 

Got it - thanks.