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Feigan: T-mac report

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by just_lurking, Aug 28, 2009.

  1. Spacemoth

    Spacemoth Member

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    You know Feigen's exaggerating. Chuck Hayes shooting free throws with good form is like Barkley figuring out the hitch in his golf swing.
     
  2. tobepg

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    Still, I root for T-mac.
     
  3. pmac

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    How so? Mcgrady's "trade value" is ONLY as an expiring contract. How he plays, when he plays, if he plays etc. mean absolutely nothing to other GM's. Anyone trading for him is looking to get out of some contracts for next year.

    I could see a team telling fans/media that they're trading for him to 'shake things up a bit' like the Pistons did last year with AI but that's mainly just BS.
     
  4. RV6

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    ummm, he's already doing that....it's actually been a few weeks ..
     
  5. worzel gummidge

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    This isn't a list of who I think the Rockets should trade McGrady for. I'm guessing what offers may be out there for them.

    <strike>Toronto</strike> <strike>Chicago</strike> <strike>Cleveland</strike> <strike>Atlanta</strike> <strike>Charlotte</strike> <strike>Miami</strike> <strike>Orlando</strike>
    <strike>Dallas</strike> <strike>New Orleans</strike> <strike>Oklahoma</strike> <strike>Portland</strike> <strike>Denver</strike> <strike>Lakers</strike>

    Boston: Ray Allen.

    New Jersey: If Nets want go ultra cheap for long term. Harris + Simmons → McGrady + Brooks

    New York: Harrington + Mobley (80% of $9.5M salary paid by insurance co.)

    Philadelphia: Brand(?) + Dalembert

    Detroit: 3 players @ $10M+ covering 2 positions in Gordon, Hamilton, & Prince.

    Indiana: Dunleavy + trade filler (Murphy or Ford)

    Milwaukee: Redd + trade filler (Elson, or Ukic, or Sharpe)

    Washington: Season ending injury to Caron. Butler + trade filler (James).

    Memphis: Randolph (2yrs) + Thabeet

    San Antonio: Season ending injury to Manu. Ginobli + rights to Splitter + filler (Bonner & Dice)

    T-Wolves: Offseason miracle. Rights to Rubio and c.$20M of garbage contracts out of some combination of Atkins, Blount, Cardinal, Songaila, & Wilkins.

    Utah: AK47 + Harpring (potentially partially guaranteed)

    Golden State: If relations between Monta & GS's front office continue to sour. Ellis + salary dump (Maggette, or Jackson, or Claxton)

    Clippers: Davis + Camby

    Phoenix: Season ending injury to Amare or trade. Nash + trade filler (J-Rich or Hill & Frye/Dragic)

    Sacramento: Kevin Martin + trade filler (Thomas, or Nocioni, or Udrih, or Garcia)
     
  6. rocketsmetalspd

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    Morey still working the phones even after watching TMac play in Chicago does not sound good for TMac. I just hope for the best no matter who Morey decides to keep on the team.
     
  7. Tom Bombadillo

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    I can't wait to see JT in action, If he is as hard a worker as they say, we could have a steal...
     
  8. Deckard

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    I was thinking along the same lines. There are some interesting tidbits in that blurb, if you can believe it.
     
  9. BMoney

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    I think we completely agree. I said that his trade value is as an insured and expiring contract- ie- he's more valuable to teams if he does not get on the court. Him making a comeback, even if he plays well, would probably make him less attractive to most teams.
     
  10. kenwonobi

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    I dont agree. if a team can get Tmac back playing and the expiring contract they can definately sell the fact that he is a superstar for a back half push to the playoffs. His skill determined when he comes back definately determines his value. if he is somewhere near his old days he becomes alot more valuable. Teams are not gonna be able get him for nothing if he is scoring 20 points a night. They would have to give up a Superstar to get him or allstar caliber player if he is healthy.
     
  11. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Agreed.

    DD
     
  12. worzel gummidge

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    Contending teams aren't giving up real assets for McGrady at the trade deadline. They point of trading for McGrady would be to stockpile as much talent as they can. The best from those teams would be expiring contracts and their low first round pick/s.

    McGrady's peak value is now. As long as a team doesn't play him they collect the insurance. A non-contending team can trade $20M worth of garbage contracts and save as much as they want from that by sitting him. It's non-contending teams in cost-saving mode or financial trouble who are the ones who will give up a Ricky Rubio, Kevin Martin, or perhaps even a Devin Harris.
     
  13. kenwonobi

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    No that would be driving down his importance. If he comes back and scores 20 a game you could get alot more. Its not prudent to just give Tmac away. id rather keep him than let a team get him for practically nothing. His value is superstar when healthy so get no less than at least allstar potential for him in return or near that value. If he comes back and is as good as most players then there is no need to give him away for nothing. They will just have to take him on as risk reward and also have his contract expire if not working out. No team is getting him for picks and bums and I wouldnt back that Morey move and he wont do it.
     
  14. baller4life315

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    Disagreed. While I agree entirely that T-Mac can become a lockdown defender in spurts when properly motivated, but my image of him was forever changed after the 05-06 season AKA the season before we got Battier. That was really the first season where it became apparent that his body was breaking down and that asking him to be a two-way player 100% of the time was no longer an option. Battier fits perfectly with T-Mac in the picture -- crutch or no crutch.

    I think it's unreasonable to ask a guy with a lengthy history of back and shoulder problems, a player that's fresh off of microfracture surgery and a player that's had some issues with his weight/endurance to all of a sudden come back ready to terrorize the league on both ends of the court. That's too much, too fast.
     
  15. worzel gummidge

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    Not for a half a season rental, and again not if that team is looking to stockpile talent for a playoff push.
     
  16. Jeff Who

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    don't see any updates here.
     
  17. JayGoogle

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    I don't see how Tmac's peak value is now.

    He's a Expiring no matter what this season, it only helps if he comes back and shows he is still a all-star caliber player.

    Look at Iverson, you think the Pistons would have wanted Iverson if he was hurt for half of the season? No, they wanted to tell their fans "Hey, this guy makes us better this year...and if it doesn't work out oh well, we just don't resign."

    His value will only lower now if he comes back and sucks. If he comes back and does his thing his value will be through the roof.

    Because not only is he a expiring contract for teams who want more cap space for the upcoming season...but he's a piece to a team that might not be doing so well record wise.

    If Tmac comes back before January and averages like 20ppg, 5apg, 5 rpg...his value will be through the roof.

    No way someone would want a hurt tmac more than a healthy one.
     
  18. GotGame15

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    My thoughts exactly. The other posters are trippin.
     
  19. BetterThanEver

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    On the other hand, if T-mac can't play by the tradeline, his value will be an all-time for trading purposes.
     
  20. jump shooter

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    Good post Baller.
     

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