[FEDERALIST] If We’re Going To Have A Racial Double Standard It Should Be About Black Americans Only

What is your personal opinion?

 

Are standardized tests racist?

 

What does this have to do with the OP?

 

Speaking fluent standard American-English would help anyone go further than speaking broken English -- especially as a native English speaker.

 

Okay.... well what about women?

A lot of time spent on trying to decide who has been screwed over the most.

 

Responding to the quote above.. wouldnt you say economic immobility is equal to lower aptitude regardless of race? The general crux of blue collar professions vs white collar? There is only so much you can point out without tip toeing around the obvious ... Honest opinions please.

 

There are quite a number of software engineers who are smart numbers-wise but never bothered to read a broad book in general history or ethnic studies.

To them, if there's a problem or a premise, find its deficiencies and fix it. It's a very analytical and reductionist way of modeling and problem solving. They mostly happen to claim to be libertarian.

The WPT is just a branch of many other theories. As an Asian like the author, my parents choose to be here. Blacks, First Nations and multi-generation Hispanics didn't. That's a big difference.

There are substantial Mexican Americans who had ancestors who never hopped a wall or migrated here, rather they had their land stolen and citizenship put in limbo status. That practice, such as ignoring the rights afforded to them by treaties signed between the us and Mexico, became normalized as ways to treat Mexicans and their South American brothers.

The way we treat many First Nations tribes to this day is so abominable that we don't even mention it in our day to day, while simultaneously playing images of the Noble Savage and the casino baron.

Asians chose to be here but it wasn't until the 70s that the us allowed them a choice. It's wrongheaded for Asians to inject themselves into this debate while arguing concepts of meritocracy and being ignorant of all the struggles races had before us to set the table. And by struggles I also mean the Irish's, Italian's, German's, and slav's.

If you view it from that lens, race conflicts are yet another proxy for class struggles. WPT can be a dangerous and divisive topic but I learned it as a tool for self awareness rather than some prop to shame people on social media. I recognize my privilege as an Asian who is possibly a doctor, engineer, or graduate degree holder, and I use it hard to get out of a ticket. Who wouldn't?

How we deliver and communicate these messages are equally important, provided we have enough empathy and the right mind to start that conversation.

 

It is getting harder and harder to argue the “black male” doesn’t figure heavily into poverty and lack of opportunity.

In the past income, gender and age ther markers were arguable points but the data (and we have a lot of data now) shows when it comes to poverty being a black male in the USA is the short end of the economic stick.

 

Well the obvious is that black americans go to poor schools more likely and thus score poorer on tests. In fact, some of these schools kids have to share text books, very hard to study for tests when you can't just take your text book home and you have to leave it in school so that the other kids can use it while in class...and you probably don't have access to the internet either. What is there to tip toe around here? Blacks score poorly on standardized testing since poor people score poorly on testing, and black people are poorer because of many factors. What else could it be?

As for the OP, I feel like this is the Ann Coulter strategy of trying to turn black people against other minority groups but worded in a way that makes it seem a lot more rational. I think we can afford to look at situations separately, as @Nook mentioned, what about women?

 

Yes.

 

I'm not sure that there is a "lack of opportunity" for black males, but on average black men do have some significant hurdles in their way such as the fact that they have something like a 66% chance to be raised in a single parent home which makes it VERY likely for them to be raised poor. People raised in poor areas are less likely to learn the habits of successful people...rather they learn the habits of poor people which is another disadvantage. On top of that you have a dominant subculture in the black community that actively rejects hard work and education while glamorizing poor life decisions and criminality.

If they can avoid those pitfalls though, they have all the same (and in MANY cases more) opportunities that any other person has.

 

If you take the median 75%, not the best or the worst, put them in the same system with the same funding and think they will have the same results as the median 75% white? Is this an attempt to homogenize a merit based capitalist society that generally rewards the best and the brightest, which is why America is in the position it's in today?

Explain.

 

It is lack of opportunity, Blacks in America predominantly grow up in the inner city, in poor areas. Per capita, they get shittier education because of inner city schools. Hispanics face this somewhat as well. That's not to say that there aren't dirt poor whites, or Asians - but Blacks and Hispanics are poorer per capita.

However, this script flips somewhat in higher education, where it is vastly easier for minorities to receive government assistance for college.

There is a direct correlation between poverty and substandard education, it isn't a debate in the slightest. Where you find one, you will find another.

 

The poor rich narrative is an easy one, but inaccurate concerning aptitude.

What would you say to the following facts?

https://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/07/alabamas_achievement_gap.html

 

Being in a poor school doesn't mean that you don't have the same opportunity, especially when you can get into college with a lower GPA than others based on your race. The problem is that the motivation isn't the same due to other factors. Those who want to achieve growing up in those conditions will achieve. Those who prioritize stupidity, will be handing out rap demos outside of clubs while flipping burgers for minimum wage. Far too much effort is spent on stupidity within certain subcultures popular among poor people.

 

Also, if you get a girl pregnant, do not abandon her and your child. Be a man. The end.

 

Education is more about just where you live. It is generational. If your parents are less educated, you'll more than likely be less educated. I'm not saying that blacks can't succeed, but this is a systematic issue that has gone on for decades. Poverty and a lack of education goes hand in hand. The raw test numbers don't tell the entire story.

Have you been to a poor school? I went to both poor and affluent schools, and there was most certainly a difference. Just go look at teacher salaries for inner city schools versus the suburbs. Teachers make 20% or more teaching in the suburbs.

There is most certainly a correlation between student success and dollars spent in education. To say there isn't is disingenuous.

 

Better yet, just don't have a child outside of wedlock early in your life. Having kids early, whether you abandon them or not usually sentences you to poverty.....and sentences that kid to growing up in poverty.

 

The parents are earning 6 figures... I'm pretty sure that doesn't come from not being educated. These are students in the same region who have parents making 6 figures.