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Federal law backed by Michelle Obama would prohibit school bake sales

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  1. rtsy

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    More sickening hope and change:

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Don't touch my brownies!

    A child nutrition bill on its way to President Barack Obama — and championed by the first lady — gives the government power to limit school bake sales and other fundraisers that health advocates say sometimes replace wholesome meals in the lunchroom.

    Republicans, notably Sarah Palin, and public school organizations decry the bill as an unnecessary intrusion on a common practice often used to raise money.

    "This could be a real train wreck for school districts," Lucy Gettman of the National School Boards Association said Friday, a day after the House cleared the bill. "The federal government should not be in the business of regulating this kind of activity at the local level."

    The legislation, part of first lady Michelle Obama's campaign to stem childhood obesity, provides more meals at school for needy kids, including dinner, and directs the Agriculture Department to write guidelines to make those meals healthier. The legislation would apply to all foods sold in schools during regular class hours, including in the cafeteria line, vending machines and at fundraisers.

    It wouldn't apply to after-hours events or concession stands at sports events.

    Public health groups pushed for the language on fundraisers, which encourages the secretary of Agriculture to allow them only if they are infrequent. The language is broad enough that a president's administration could even ban bake sales, but Secretary Tom Vilsack signaled in a letter to House Education and Labor Committee Chairman George Miller, D-Calif., this week that he does not intend to do that. The USDA has a year to write rules that decide how frequent is infrequent.

    Margo Wootan of the Center for Science in the Public Interest says the bill is aimed at curbing daily or weekly bake sales or pizza fundraisers that become a regular part of kids' lunchtime routines. She says selling junk food can easily be substituted with nonfood fundraisers.

    "These fundraisers are happening all the time," Wootan said. "It's a pizza sale one day, doughnuts the next... It's endless. This is really about supporting parental choice. Most parents don't want their kids to use their lunch money to buy junk food. They expect they'll use their lunch money to buy a balanced school meal."

    Not all see it that way.

    Palin mocked the efforts last month by bringing a plate of cookies to a school speech in Pennsylvania. Rep. John Kline of Minnesota, the senior Republican on the House Education and Labor Committee, said the federal government "has really gone too far" when it is deciding when to hold bake sales.

    Some parents say they are perplexed by what the new rules might allow.

    In Seminole, Fla., the Seminole High Warhawks Marching Band's booster club held a bake sale to help send the band's 173 members to this year's Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade in New York. One of the bake sale's specialties: New York-style cheesecake, an homage to the destination they'd pursued for 10 years.

    "Limiting bake sales is so narrow-minded," said Laura Shortway, whose 17-year-old daughter, Mallory, is a drummer in the band. "Having bake sales keeps these fundraisers community based, which is very appealing to the person making the purchase."

    Several school districts and state education departments already have policies suggesting or enforcing limits on bake sales, both for nutritional reasons and to keep the events from competing for dollars against school cafeterias. In Connecticut, for instance, about 70 percent of the state's school districts have signed on to the state education department's voluntary guidelines encouraging healthy foods in place of high-sugar, high-fat options.

    Under those rules, bake sales cannot be held on school grounds unless the items meet nutrition standards that specifically limit portion sizes, fat content, sodium and sugars. That two-ounce, low-fat granola bar? Probably OK, depending what's in it. But grandma's homemade oversized brownie with cream cheese frosting and chocolate chips inside? Probably not.

    One loophole in Connecticut: The nutritional standards apply if the food is being sold at a bake sale, but not if it's being given away free, such as by a parent for a child's birthday.

    "If a mom wants to send in cupcakes to celebrate St. Patrick's Day, that would not be subject to the state guidelines," said Thomas Murphy, a spokesman for the state's education department.

    In New York City, a rule enacted in 2009 allows bake sales only once a month, and they must comply with nutritional standards and be part of a parent group fundraiser.

    Wootan says she hopes the rules will prompt schools to try different options for fundraising.

    "Schools are so used to doing the same fundraisers every year that they need a strong nudge to do something new," she says. "The most important rebuttal to all of these arguments is that schools can make money other ways — you don't have to harm kids health."

    http://hosted2.ap.org/APDefault/8ef...ake-Sales/id-5321294162324cd7b0928fbd842f85c2
     
  2. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist
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    Great idea, poor execution maybe.
     
  3. pgabriel

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    seems like no big deal
     
  4. rtsy

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  5. Rocket River

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    Fat kids or some government intrusion.
    The lessor of two weevils?

    Rocket River
     
  6. Major

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    The title of this thread does not agree with the content of the article. It's quite clear that the original poster didn't actually read or comphrehend what he posted.
     
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  7. bigtexxx

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    If wonder if passing this would make Michelle proud of America, possibly for the first time
     
  8. mc mark

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    What a ridiculous thing to say.


    Probably about as much as you were embarrassed for America when we elected a black president.
     
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  9. fchowd0311

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    dang.... zing
     
  10. bigtexxx

    bigtexxx Contributing Member

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    It wasn't a ridiculous thing to say at all. You must have a very short memory (see link below). Now, your quote about me was straight-up slanderous. I'll be the bigger man and not resort to insults, which you did. Obviously, when you have to resort to insults, you've lost any kind of argument. Oh, and just to finish this complete PWN3RSHIP of you, Obama's only half-black. BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA


    http://www.bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/view.bg?articleid=1074519

    At last, Michelle Obama proud of America

    Michelle Obama proclaimed yesterday that for “the first time” in her adult life,” she was proud of America, as she spoke during a rally to support her husband’s presidential bid.

    While Barack Obama spent yesterday deflecting accusations from Hillary Clinton’s campaign of “plagiarizing” part of a speech delivered in 2006 by Bay State Gov. Deval Patrick, Mrs. Obama made her own headlines.
     
  11. Major

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    Your own link says she was proud of America in 2008. So how would this bill passed in 2010 or 2011 be "possibly the first time"?

    You need some new material. And basic logic skills.
     
  12. mc mark

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    Slander is posting people's words out of context. Which you continuously do bigot. Maybe you should think about that.
     
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    ....more insults....yawn. Remember, every time I see an insult from you, I've won the argument.

    I'll continue to be the bigger man and not respond in kind.
     
  14. Dairy Ashford

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    I wonder when you start respecting black women who are better educated and more accomplished and productive than you ever will be, ricecake.
     
  15. bigtexxx

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    wtf? You assume my comment was race-related, rather than about Michelle's previous comment? A little quick to pull the race card, there, bro

    and of course, the obligatory insult directed at me, included in your post. Please see my comments to mc mark on that topic. TIA
     
  16. Dairy Ashford

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    As if people like you would ever accept a whole-black president.
     
  17. bigtexxx

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    Are you just a broken record that continually plays the race card?

    Remember, every time I see an insult from you, I've won the argument.

    I'll continue to be the bigger man and not respond in kind.
     
  18. Dairy Ashford

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    You're the jackass who keeps throwing out the half-black nonsense. The kind of head-up-your-ass racial amnesia that keeps the GOP running.
     
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  19. Refman

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    This proposed law just goes too far in my opinion. Fighting childhood obesity is a great goal, but this is not the way to go about it. A good many of these kids would not be obese if they were playing outside and being active as in years past rather than plopped in front of the Xbox 9 hours a day. There needs to be an emphasis on providing activities that encourage activity as opposed to ceding that these kids will be sedentary and regulating under the force of law what they can eat.

    Also...providing dinner? I can understand breakfast and lunch (these are times that kids are at school). Most schools end their day at 3:00. That is awfully early for dinner. If it is being proposed to keep these kids at school until after dinner, what is next...having them live at school and sleep on roll away beds in the gym? Not only that, there will be extra expenses involved in having competent staff there later to supervise the kids. Not to mention the fact that there is enhanced liability exposure from having the kids there hours after the school day ends.

    Some things are well intentioned but just go too far.
     
  20. bigtexxx

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    Are you in favor of identification techniques such as the one-drop rule or the pencil test? I'm certainly not. Obama is half-black, half-white because his mother was white and his father black. Pretty simple.
     

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