No, you guys tend to use Stalinist/Communist metaphors when leveling insults...blah blah blah. Were you that offended by brownshirts? If he had said "digital thugs" or "digital henchmen", does that constitute a "Huge Difference"? What about the other examples? Does using "blitzkrieg" render you liable to get hitlerized? What about "gulag", can I get stalinized then? You've got a lot of questions to answer on this still. BTW, I guess I take it that comparing Bush to Saturn is off limits too? Does this go for all of Goya's Pinturas Negras or for Saturn in general in any form, or both?
I don't know, but I do know that if they didn't, then it's ok to put Kerry up there next to a picture of Hitler in bassoland because it's a difference in kind. And not just a difference, a huge difference.
andrew sullivan, and yes, we all got the same memo from king karl this morning: http://andrewsullivan.com/index.php...04_06_27_dish_archive.html#108861088754416598 "Yes, I know it's a Goya parody. So? Bush is eating his own son? This is simple demonization. I was worried that it appeared in the Nation. But now I'm less surprised. Guess who registered the domain name for pleasevote.com, the site sponsoring the ad? The contact listed is hamfish@nationinstitute.org. Sometimes you don't need Michael Moore connecting the dots, do you?"
a Goya aside: in 1986 i was fortunate enough to appear in the world premier of Menotti's "Goya" at the Kennedy Center, televised live on PBS. "Goya" was written for one of three tenors, and we had a nice scene together, which came to be called the "mo duet." this picture perhaps explains why... thye opera was written in english, and Placido had a rather unidiomatic command of the language. there was a big scene with the duchess of alba called "Ah, do not laugh", but we called it "Chase your booty!" the original words went something like: Ah, do not laugh Don't make a plaything of me. Your laughter will not save you now! Mine are these hands. Mine are these eyes. Yes! your beauty now belongs to me and burns into my heart! But when Placido sang, it came out: Ah, doo nah lafffff don maeek a playting uhff me. Choor lafftrrr weell nah safe choo now. Mine errr theess haints. Mine errr theess eyeuhs. Chase! Your booty now belonks to me! anduh burnsss eento my ccchhheart! guess you had to be there...
On the bright side, I can't imagine that a deaf spanish painter would have sounded any more comprehensible than Plathido.
Question: In scenario #2, who is doing the beheading and who is being beheaded? It could make a difference.
I'm gone for a few days and the first thread I click on, after checking out the GARM, is this one. How could I be so lucky?? (insert rolleyes here) basso, is the job going OK? Things good in the basso house? Because, for the life of me, I can't understand why you, or anyone of intelligence, would post a poll like that. It's both idiotic and insulting. I guess you're enjoying it, however, since you've gotten some response. Hell, I'll give you one... I've disliked Bush for years. I disliked him before he was governor. I thought he was a rich kid who was handed an ownership interest in the Rangers by friends of his father's when he failed as a businessman. I thought he was a terrible governor and I disliked him for that. I thought he ran a dishonest campaign for President, and I disliked him more. I thought he was handed the election by the Supreme Court and it furthered my dislike. I hoped he would prove to be a better President than I expected, but he unfortunately fufilled my expectations. For a brief time, I held only a moderate dislike because of how he handled the immediate aftermath of 9/11, but it soon became clear that he was what I knew him to be, quickly enough, and I wasn't surprised. I began to hate George W. Bush after he began dismantling our freedoms in this country, ruining our alliances of 50 years standing, and invaded a country needlessly, lying during the runup and, since the invasion, making a complete cockup of the whole thing. In short, he's been busy screwing up the things I love and respect about my country. So I hate him for that. When he is defeated in November, I'm going to run out into the front yard, if I'm not at Democratic Party Headquarters, and sob with relief. If he somehow manages to win, I may start looking at real estate in New Zealand.
so if he's so stupid, dishonest, mendacious, how has he managed to win three consecutive elections, in the process garnering more votes than bill clinton, who won in a landslide, that brought him down ...was he just in the right place at the right time?
Bush was pretty much the same as governor of Texas, except he couldn't start a war back then. Ann Richards was a much better governor, just could not compete with the money behind Bush.
Very similar, even in foreign policy, right down the alliances with unsavory, human rights violating, murderer/dictators
Because he's stupid, dishonest and mendacious. And he has some very clever people behind him who are ruthless and will stop at nothing to get this stupid, dishonest and mendacious tool reelected... because he is a pliant tool, and has an incredible amount of money behind him for that very reason.
This fits here... _______ NOVAK: All right. Readers -- readers of the left wing magazine, "The Nation," might be a little shocked when they see the back page of the current issue. Even the most fanatical Bush haters might be shocked. Yes, the drawing shows George W. Bush eating a headless child. This is inspired by a 19th century work by Francisco Goya, Saturn Devouring his Children, aimed against the Spanish monarchy. Sitting at this table, I know how emotional and relentless and mindless is the hatred directed against George W. Bush. But in the spirit of patriotism, this Fourth of July weekend, I wonder, Paul, if you can join me in deploring this treatment of any president of the United States as over the line and unacceptable? (APPLAUSE) BEGALA: In the spirit of patriotism, let me support the first amendment, which says the nation shouldn't be censored by right- wingers. And let me ask you, Mr. Novak, with your new self-founded -- newfounded self-righteousness, are you going to retract the statement you said last week on "Meet the Press," where you implied that President Clinton was involved in people's deaths over Whitewater? That's the most outrageous things I've heard said about an American president. NOVAK: I didn't say he was engaging -- and you're lying. BEGALA: I'll read your words. NOVAK: And when I said that... BEGALA: "I don't believe that the Whitewater case was ever fully investigated. People died, and I believe Bill Clinton beat the rap on Whitewater." (CROSSTALK) (BELL RINGING) NOVAK: Well, I didn't say he was involved with the thing. BEGALA: You said... NOVAK: You... BEGALA: ... he beat the rap and people died. Who died? Who died in Whitewater? (CROSSTALK) NOVAK: McDougal died, and... BEGALA: He died in prison of a heart attack. NOVAK: Well, people died (UNINTELLIGIBLE). But just a minute. You can't -- you can't say -- go on national television and accuse me of something I didn't say. BEGALA: I read your words. NOVAK: I did not say that, and that is a lie. And I... BEGALA: These are your words, Mr. Novak. I read them. NOVAK: And I'm ashamed of you for going on the air and saying that. BEGALA: I got this from the transcript. This is the transcript from "Meet the Press", Bob. NOVAK: That's an outrage. And it is... BEGALA: It is an outrage. You owe Mr. Clinton an apology. NOVAK: ... an absolute outrage because I did not say that he was responsible for those deaths. And this is not fun, Paul.
""I don't believe that the Whitewater case was ever fully investigated. People died, and I believe Bill Clinton beat the rap on Whitewater." Bob Novak on Meet the Press. Very nice, rimrocker. I'm glad Begala called him out on it. This sort of thing happens again and again... the innuendo suggesting murder, in this case, and the guilty party, here being Novak, gets "outraged." What a laugh. The only outrage Novak feels is the "injustice" of having his lies thrown back in his face. That's not supposed to happen. The body politic is meant to absorb the BS and begin to believe it's true.
Oh, did Novak say that, too?? I must have missed it. It's unusual for a "talking head" like Novak to be called out that directly. I find it noteworthy, at any rate.
