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FBI employees witnessed abuses at Gitmo

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by FranchiseBlade, Jan 3, 2007.

  1. hotballa

    hotballa Contributing Member

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    I am not answering because you, my dear fellow, has made it quite clear that you're not in a good mood. You've jumped on me because I suggested that you relax a bit and keep the ranting down to a manageable level. You don't know my stance on Bush nor on the so called Christian conservatives (since when did this thread become about them?), for all you know I just might actually agree with some of what you're ranting about.
     
  2. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    For the record, I'm ok with urine-boarding *terrorists*, not just 'people', as you so flippantly state, jo mama. Please try to control yourself.
     
  3. FranchiseBlade

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    your common cause with tyrranical dictators such Saddam along with your opposition to the American traditions, and principles is shocking.
     
  4. jo mama

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    you keep parroting this, but have nothing to back it up with. if anything, i have fun posting on here. i enjoy exposing the neocons for their hypocrisy. but either way, why would the kind of mood i am in keep you from answering a question? you are obviously just clinging to this excuse as a way to avoid addressing what i am actually talking about.

    how did i "jump on you"? sounds to me like you are getting a little too defensive. maybe you should get back to me when you are in a "good mood". :D
     
  5. jo mama

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    for the record, not everyone who has been tortured is a "terrorist".

    i ask again, how would you like it if you were wrongly imprisoned and tortured?

    and i state again, anybody who knows anything about interrogation techniques will tell you that torture is not a reliable way to gather information.
     
  6. hotballa

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    I thought you were "exposing" Christian conservatives, now it's neocons? Please make up your mind on which one you want to "expose" =)

    These are posts from you towards me. I don't know why I would think you were jumping on me. You simply assumed I was against you because I told you to tone it down.

     
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    hotbala

    were you really good at dodgeball when you were a kid?
     
  8. jo mama

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    another weak avoidance of the question.

    first you tell me how im feeling and now you tell me what i am assuming? shouldnt you be using your psychic powers for more than arguing w/ people on the internet? where did i assume or imply or state that you were "against" me?
     
  9. jo mama

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    LOL...the person who states quite proudly that they would pay money to watch another person get "urineboarded" tells me to control myself!
     
  10. AMS

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    When WE as a country go into a couple of other countries and pickup random people and accuse them of being terrorists, we damn well better be close to 100% accuracy, otherwise you might as well have on your hands another japanese camp type thing going on...


    the nation doesn't support torturing innocent citizens either.
    what if one of those broken eggs was your mother? or your son, would you be fine with that?
     
  11. hotballa

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    lol I was terrible at it.

    For the record, I think Bush is an absolute tool (well intentioned, in his mind anyway). I think the war in Iraq was started on lies and delusions of a select few in power, and is a tragic mistake that we will continue to suffer the consequences of for quite some while no matter the outcome.

    I don't know what's happening at Gitmo, but if innocents are getting tortured there, that's just wrong and in no cases should urine ever be involved in anything. It's just plain disgusting and barbaric to treat another human being like that. I may disagree strongly with the Quran but I see no reason to dunk it in urine (if that did happen).

    I'm not a big fan of people who say one thing and condemn people for it while they lead the same life themself. However, everyone makes mistakes and if they're truly sorry about it and can move on, I'm not going to hold it against them. I think the thing that Haggard can do is to stay out of the spotlight and focus on finding out what kind of person he really is and what he wants from life. I know he has kids and a wife, so whatever happens, I can only hope and pray that it is a family decision and that they make the best of a bad situation.

    I hold a severe dislike for neocons who I think are really nothing more than wolves in sheep's clothing with their message of "freeing Iraq from an evil villain".

    You see jo mama, I actually agree with a lot of what you said. I just think that you totaly sensationalized everything and did it with such vigor and gusto that the only conclusion I could come to was that you needed to calm down a bit.

    Just because someone tells you to turn it down a notch doesn't mean we're automatically the enemy ;)
     
  12. jo mama

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    what did i sensationalize exactly? tell me what i said that was wrong. i stated a series of facts and you have yet to address any of them, instead dodging the questions by telling me how i am feeling. again, shouldnt you be using your amazing psychic powers for more than telling me what kind of mood i am in?

    i find it very telling that people like you and tradertexx completely ignore the facts at hand. i think he knows the truth, but he is just so morally bankrupt and brainwashed that he doesnt care. yall are like a couple ostriches with your heads in the sand. do you deny that bush planted a gay male prostitute in the white house press corp? tj, do you deny this? if not, how do you feel about it? is there anything "christian" or "conservative" about this?

    do you deny that the bush administration authorized torture? do you think torture is wrong or do you agree with tj and stalin that you must break a few eggs to make an omelette? did you know that bush's former legal council john yoo, one of the chief architects of the patriot act has aruged that there is no law, treaty or act of congress which prevents the president from sexually torturing children? is there anything "christian" or "conservative" about that?

    do you think torture is a reliable way to get information?

    where did i assusme, imply or state that you are the 'enemy'? it seems that you are a little too defensive and sensitive about this. perhaps you need to calm down a bit. and when did you become the defender of tradertexx? my post was directed towards him, but you are the one who got your panties all in a wad. tj maybe alot of things, but at least he has thicker skin than you. are you in love with him or something? maybe you guys should move to taxachussets and have a gay wedding - im sure bush and gannon could be your bridesmaids.
     
  13. hotballa

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    wow... that's all I can say. Your post speaks for yourself. I consider the matter closed.

    you win.
     

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