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FBB Ratings Adjustment Thread

Discussion in 'Fantasy Sports' started by Band Geek Mobster, Jan 27, 2002.

  1. ZRB

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    Marcus Camby's inside game should be at least a B-, same for Patrick Ewing.
     
  2. DieHard Rocket

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    I think Jermaine O'neal's potential should be higher than a B. He is getting better every year now, and will probably be an all-star.

    Al Harrington's defense and rebounding could be tweaked up a bit. He has had a breakthrough year, despite his recent injury.

    Johnathan Bender could use at least a C+ on in and out game...if not, at least his potential should be higher. He is a highly anticipated player for the Pacers.

    That is it for now.
     
  3. rimbaud

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    BGM, I guess I was just thinking about Glover's shooting...he has been outplaying Kukoc and is avg 11 ppg...but I have no problem with you keeping him as is (unless he can't score more than 3 ppg in the sim). As far as Dermarr, you are right...I thought he was putting up better numbers, anyway, sorry. Keep both as is.
     
  4. DEANBCURTIS

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    The Greatest Player in All Time has a C+ in outside shooting, surely you must jest.

    Kwame has a B in potential, he's only 19.

    Also, Loy Vaught retired in real life nba, yet is still on my squad.
     
  5. Band Geek Mobster

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    Alright, let me point out one thing, the potential rating on this sim must have a bug or something because no matter what numerical value I put for a guy, his potential rating stays the same, don't worry about it, I've changed most of the potential ratings.

    Also once we sim a week, I'll go review most, if not all of the team stats and I will compare them with the real team stats in the NBA, and I will quickly adjust the ratings to make them as realistic as possible.

    Thanks for the heads up on some of the players though...

    Also dbc, Jordan's low outside rating is just a reflection of his low 3 point shooting rating, which is a reasonable rating for him since he hardly ever takes 3's. His jumpshot rating is solid though so don't worry...
     
  6. DEANBCURTIS

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    Thanks for the explanation, although the three periods are quite unsettling.
     
  7. SmeggySmeg

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    BGm

    can you check Bonzi Wells ratings for outside game and potential, he seems to low for all

    Thanks

    Smeg
     
  8. Band Geek Mobster

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    BTW, I've decided to wait another day before I adjust ratings.

    So after tomorrow, I'll examine players and their ratings...
     
  9. Manny Ramirez

    Manny Ramirez The Music Man

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    Damn...I gotten my ass taken to the cleaners on that Grant/Gugliotta trade.

    Gugliotta is not rated higher than a C in anything....that is bogus.

    Please adjust his outside shooting and his rebounding.

    I wish I had known how sucky his ratings were before I traded for him:( Oh well, probably won't be the last bad deal I'll do.
     
  10. Band Geek Mobster

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    Players Adjusted:
    Michael Jordan (Lowered 3 point shooting and FG shooting somewhat, mainly 3 point though)

    Tony Parker (Lowered Handling, his real numbers are much lower than I would have thought with all of his hype)

    Antoine Walker (Increased handling and inside, decreased shooting numbers)

    Steve Francis (Lowered Passing)

    Dream (Decreased in rebounding and jumpshot)

    Dirk (Increased inside and rebounds, decreased 3 point and passing)

    Googs (Lowered 3 point, lowered rebounds, and lowered jumpshot)

    Manny, if you actually compare his stats on the game to his stats in real life you'll see that he's actually better in the sim than in real life. I'm not going to increase his ratings.

    These players just came to mind, if anyone else notices a guy not getting what you think he should be, post it here...
     
  11. Manny Ramirez

    Manny Ramirez The Music Man

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    I got to thinking after I posted that about increasing Googs ratings...my 3 key players were Mourning, Jones, and Grant . So, I went 2 weeks or whatever with only 2 key players....lol.

    Would that be why Googs was only averaging 5.6 or 5.8 PPG, BGM?
     
  12. Band Geek Mobster

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    Nope, game automatically put in Googs at #3.
     
  13. DieHard Rocket

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    Jamaal Tinsley- In the sim, he is averaging 5.7 APG...in the NBA, he is averaging 8.8 APG. I'm not sure which rating will help that, might be handling, but he should be getting more assists.

    Wally Szczerbiak- In the sim, averaging 12.0 ppg...in the NBA, he is averaging 19.3. His IN and OUT rating could use some improvement. BTW, he is an all-star this year ;). Other than that Wally and Tinsley have adequate ratings.
     
  14. rimbaud

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    Jason Terry: his ratings seemed fine, but he is 7 ppg and 2 apg lower than reality.

    Also, Vaughn is scoring more in the sim than in reality...maybe his shooting should be lowered.

    Rahim is still lower, but not by much (~1 ppg, 2 rpg). No biggie, though.
     
  15. Heath

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    I have a few request for adjustment for some current Rockets players:

    KT's stats seem ok for the most and should be within standard deviation, but his scoring is off. He averages about 14 pts/game for Rockets, but only 7.7 for me. His FT shooting might also be better in the game than real life. In the game he averages .765 - .671 so far this season.

    Harpring needs to be adjusted. In the game for me he averages 5.5/3.9 in 22.7 mins, while he this season averages 11.9/6.8 for Sixers in 31 mins. Shooting .424/.167 for me, .468/.340 for Sixers.

    Cat's 3pt shooting should perhaps be better in the game. At the moment .315 in the game, while shooting .429 so far this season. He is also avergaing only 16.4 in the game, but I think that adjusting his 3 pt shot should help that and get him closer to his 20 pts.

    Thats really all - I guess I could also mention that Iverson averages over 30 ppg in real life - 3.5 more than #2 Paul Pierce. In the game he averages 25.8, havent checked how he is doing in the league leaders.
     
  16. Puedlfor

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    Some statistical anamolies :

    Kings - Doug Christie doesn't shoot that well from the outside.
    Blazers - Derek Anderson isn't that good of a shooter, but Bonzi Wells is seriously underrated.
    Sonics - Both Baker and Booth's rebounding numbers are too high
    Clippers - Sabonis is old and slow, not that good anymore, but Candiman is coming into his own, and should be increased.
    Rockets - Matt Harpring is a very good outside shooter, and Eddie Griffin is Eddie Griffin.
    Jazz - Ostertag is waaaaaaaaaaaay too good
    Spurs - Cherokee Parks is bad, Tony Parker can't score or dish like that, but Tim Thomas is much more talented then he shows in the game.
    Grizzlies - Bryant Reeeves is fat and retired, and Jason Williams isn't an good outside shooter.
    Mavs - Shawn Bradley is foul-prone and clumsy, not as good as the game indicates
    T'Wolves - Terrell Brandon isn't that good of a scorer. But Jermaine O'Neal is a much better inside scorer than indicated.
    Nuggets - Dice and LaFrentz are too good, and Omar Cook can't shoot.
    Hawks - Alan Henderson and Jacque Vaughn aren't that good, but Terry is a better shooter than indicated.
    Cavs - Tyrone Hill is too good, he isn't that much of a rebounder, and Andre Miller isn't that good of a scorer, but Ilgauskas is better than indicated.
    Pistons - Deflate Stack's shooting. Chucky Atkins is terrible, but Barry is a better ball-handler than shown, and Wallace is a better rebounder.
    Bucks - Redd isn't that good of a shooter.
    Raptors - Olajuwon and Clark need to be decreased slightly. Vince Carter is a much better shooter, and Alvin Williams isn't a good enough playmaker to be getting 8 assists a game.
    Hornets - Robert Traylor is terrible. Baron Davis is a better scorer though, and Magloire is a decent center.
    Wizards - Cato and Haywood are better, but Jordan isn't that good of a shooter.
    Nets - PJ Brown is better offensively, Van Horn is a better shooter, but Ron Mercer isn't that good of a shooter
    Celtics - Pierce is a better shooter, Joe Johnson is a better ball-handler
    Heat - Mourning has declined, but Jones is better offensively
    Philly - Francis and Rice are better than they should be.
    Magic - Grant Hill. 27ppg? No.
    Knicks - Ewing is old and slow and bad, Sprewell can't shoot that well, and Howard Eisley is just terrible.
     
  17. Band Geek Mobster

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    Alright, I've been working on ratings and I've adjusted most of Pued's recommendations with maybe 1 or 2 exceptions.

    Also it should be noted that I basically killed Bryant Reeves and Cherokee Parks, they both suck so much that they shouldn't be given much time at all on their teams rosters.

    So Nomar and Anti need to take that into consideration...

    Also I plan on retiring Big Country at the end of the year...
     
  18. haven

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    You know, I think we need to watch for something. The players contribute to their teams winning, in this game, solely through statistical contribution. One of the key flaws of FBB is that it doesn't combine the individuals into a team. Wins/losses are determined by individual statistics.

    Hence, stuff that a player does to help his teammates... is not calculated. How can one assess the value that someone like Iverson or Francis gives his teammates through penetration indepdent of a "hidden" rating? You can't, really. Especially when "team" factors aren't accounted for.

    Perhaps some of these "excessive" ratings are truly just an adjustment for factors that can't be taken into account due to shortcomings in the game mechanics?

    Something to consider, at least.
     
  19. Nomar

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    If he retires, does his contract run out?
     
  20. rimbaud

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    I didn't say anything about Henderson because he has been injured this year, but damn his numbers kept going up. He did average 14 and 7 as a starter, but now he is about to get it as a bench guy!

    Also, I just noticed that Kukoc is 7 ppg off. Of course, I do hate him so don't really care...but I can't trade him with such poor stats. Maybe I can trade him to somebody with the understanding that after the trade his ratings will be adjusted? That way I don't get the benefit of his increased numbers. 11ppg as a backup is much easier to trade than 3.

    Pat Garrity also produces more in real life.
     

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