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Favorite Texas Food

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Fatty FatBastard, Oct 18, 2006.

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  1. vlaurelio

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    word Fajita - spanish from Spain

    food Fajita (and its components)
    - grilled skirt steak or arracheras - mexican traditional dish
    - pico de gallo - mexico
    - tortilla - mexico
    - salsa (the sauce) - mexico
    - guacamole - mexico

    who started calling grilled skirt steak or arracheras - fajitas? might be mexican vaqueros or american ranch owners..
    whio started introducing chicken fajitas, veggie fajitas, etc? americans

    there's a reason why you categorize fajita as TEX-MEX food.. give at least some credit to where its due..
     
  2. Fatty FatBastard

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    PLEASE, for the last time, show me where grilled skirt steak, or Fajitas, started in Mexico. Dummy, just because we took a mexican WORD from Mexico doesn't mean the food came from Mexico. It has already been shown it was done only by Vaqueros and their families. NOT their ancestors.

    Show me where these originated in Mexico.

    Don't mess with me and food.
     
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  3. vlaurelio

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    hey you IDIOT *******, what are you saying, the mexican vaqueros only learned to grill skirt steak here in america?

    you tell me, why are fajitas called tex-MEX? you STUPID MORON!
     
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  4. Fatty FatBastard

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    #1: According to what I've researched, yes, they learned to grill skirt steak in America.

    #2: Consider you've obviously found NOTHING to substantiate anything you have said, who is looking like the stupid moron?

    #3: Petty behavior like you just showed gets you banned pretty quickly these days.

    I suggest you learn when you are wrong, or back it up with something, as I have asked repeatedly. After all, I did.
     
  5. vlaurelio

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    you're a pathetic crybaby.. you first call me dummy then you ask help from the moderators when I return the favor?

    its just common sense.. does an article have to tell you that the tradition of grilling meats such as skirt steak and eating it with tortillas with salsa first started in mexico?

    you admit the mexican vaqueros were the first persons in america who made arracharas or fajitas.. is it so impossible that they learned it from their ancestors back in northern mexico?

    if you are really an expert on food, have you heard of Carne Asada?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carne_asada

    this sounds basically a fajita to me..

    what were you saying again? mexicans didn't know how to grill skirt steak? like they copied the idea from americans?

    or do you think americans brought the fajita to mexico? so this carne asada is really Mex-Tex food?

    I know you love tex-MEX food.. so don't ignore the country and culture who gave it to you..

    what's next, you're gonna say quesadillas were invented in america?
     
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    Following "dummy" with "idiot *******" and "stupid moron" aren't even in the same ballpark.

    People cooked tomatoes before, as well, but nobody said they invented spaghetti.

    Looking at the research, no I don't. While I'm sure mexicans had grilled food before, it is much more likely that if their ancestors killed a cow, or bull, they would've discarded the skirt like we did. Much similar to how black people learned how to cook a meat brisket and smoke ribs, essentially creating BBQ, when slavery was around. You take what you get, and you make it better. Did african-americans learn how to make brisket in Africa? Hardly.

    Really? Sounds like barbacoa, which, in case you didn't know, isn't a fajita.


    Once again, I'm stating that if you've ever watched any programing, or read any reports on Tex-Mex, you would learn quite a bit. Most of what we consider "Mexican" food, isn't Mexican. It is Tex-Mex.

    Go find Robb Walsh's entire writings on the history of Tex-Mex. Then get back to me.
     
  7. Roxfan73

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    Carne Asada is nowhere even close to barbacoa. Barbacoa is slowly cooked cheek meat.
     
  8. david_rocket

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    Yes, barbacoa and carne asada are two very different dishes, they are different types of meat, diferent styles of cooking.
     
  9. Fatty FatBastard

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    *sigh*

    Barbacoa means barbeque in Mexican speak. Barbacoa changed it's meaning into "Cows head, typically cheeks" only when it came to the U.S..... Much like the word "Fajita" meant something else when it came to Texas.

    Honestly, are y'all really trying to argue that the fajita dish didn't come from Texas? Where are y'all from? Incredible. What's next? Arguing that the California roll originated in Japan???

    Go to an "Authentic" Mexican restaurant, or, Hell, just ask Swoly. True Mexican dishes aren't tacos, burritos, chimichangas, chips and salsa, and, yes vblarghio, quesadillas (at least, the kind you have eaten). They were all created in the U.S. by hispanics. And we are much better for it.

    While "true" Mexican food is fantastic, every heritage from every culture has brought recipes over with them, and changed them to suit the American's taste-buds.

    Everyone. Do me a favor. The History Channel does several series on the history of food. Watch them before you bother me with this stiff.
     
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  10. Harrisment

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    Fatty wins. High drama in this thread!
     
  11. Achilleus

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    I've never seen two strangers bitterly debate the origins of cooking techniques.

    The internet rocks so hard because of stuff like this.
     
  12. DonnyMost

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    No way! The internet sucks because of stuff like this!

    And you smell funny too! and your mom was good in bed last night! and I ran over your dog this morning!
     
  13. Rocketman95

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    Wikipedia also says that Red Dawn was the first PG-13 movie.

    :D
     
  14. percicles

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    Only one man can solve this mystery.....


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  15. thegary

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    i have never seen anyone with as much god given talent as fatty to get their panties in a wad. thanks for the entertainment.
     
  16. vlaurelio

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    like you admit that mexican food is created by hispanics, but you don't want to admit that they have been doing the same thing in mexico before they got here..

    mexican dishes aren't taco's? again, didn't you read what carne asada is?

    what is a meixcan dish for you? paella & tapas? you are probably confusing mexican food with spanish food..

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_cuisine

     
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    vlaurelio is pretty good at it too :)
     
  18. Achilleus

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    :mad:

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  19. Fatty FatBastard

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    Again, no they weren't.

    Gee, perhaps that is why you don't see "carne asada" listed as "tacos" anywhere. Have you ever even been to Mexico? Go ask for a taco there and see if it is even remotely the same. Flour tortillas are predominantly a U.S. feature here, as well.



    No, you're having trouble understanding that Mexican food and Tex-Mex are hardly synonymous.

    I do enjoy that you are finally looking into some research. AND YET you still can't find a damn thing about fajitas originating in Mexico.

    Game. Set. Match.
     
  20. DonnyMost

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    Go for the death blow, Fatty!

    Call him a
    ROOKIE
     

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