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Yeah, besides wafer. It looks like a do-over and I don't have to mention the name. Also one of the best breaks to run is the secondary break. The 90's rockets were great at this. Dream or Thorpe with the rebound and kickout. Kenny,Max, and Horry running, then here comes thorpe or dream. People don't realize how effective that is. Utah does a great job off the rebound or turnover and its off to the races. That's the reason why the rox haven't avg 100 per game since the ring years.
i now realize why JVG would always motion his arm and tell our players to get down the court whenever we got a rebound. I thought it was a signal for a play to be run, but t-mac would always walk it up the court regardless.
They gotta know when to run a fast break, when not to. Obviously Utah's strategy was let Rockets beat them in half court set. That's why Utah didn't even go for offensive rebounds that much. I don't think 1 on3, 2 on 3, 2 on 4 can be called fastbreak opportunity there. It was just plain stupid, low IQ basketball.
This brings up a topic I've always wondered : do you need to be "athletic" in the leaper/runner sense to be a great fast break team? I ask this because I've always heard talk of the best breaks being those dominated by passes since no defense can outrun good passes (less dribbling, more passing). As an example, if you look back to the 80's, the greatest fast break team was probably the Showtime Lakers who no doubt were athletic, but possibly the 2nd best rarely gets as much attention or notoriety : the Celtics. That was a team dominated by Bird, Parish, and McHale. This was my biggest gripe against the Francis years. We had gazelles that could run the court, but no spacing, no anticipation, and not much in the way of passing to get the break flying. That's how the Celtics front line managed to participate and still dominate on their breaks from what I remember.
You're very limited in terms of understanding basketball. DoD, you don't have to be athletic to be a good fastbreak team, but you have to be committed to it. The old celtics had 5 guys running all the time. I was reading about tommy heinsohn and he said he wanted a strong push off every rebound before pulling the ball out. The commitment has to be there every rebound, steal, or to. The rockets can be a good running team because u need at least 3 running and 4 would be better. The rox have brooks and scola as starters who run. Shane and Ron run stop at the 3pt line which kills any chance and Yao is yao.
There is nothing wrong with them being aggressive and going strong to the basket on a fast break. They just have to execute it by finishing or getting to the free throw line.
I hear you on that, but Von would have a 1 on 2 or 1 on 3 and just throw the ball up hoping it would go in, and also got stuffed by Korver at one time in the game on a fast break...I just think he needs to see that sometimes it is best to actually set up the offense. Don't force the issue and allow your team to fall behind more... I love Von, just the Utah game and a few other games worried me heading into the playoffs, we can't afford those mistakes in a seven game series.. Chilcutt
I strongly disagree with you on this. I stopped reading after this. You don't have to be athletic to be a fast break team. You just have to be willing to run. Thats all. Scola runs and hustles everytime. He isn't athletic. Guys just have to be willing to run thats all.
I agree that he needs to know when and when not to take it to the hole. I thought the few games before the Utah game he started improving on his decision making. He started slowing it down instead of attacking recklessly. He sort of reverted back to the old Von Wafer in the Utah game. I think he was just trying to hard to make something happen because we were struggling to score at the time but he ended up making matters worse. Hopefully he learns from it, he still has to remain aggressive he just has to know the correct time to do that.
Honestly, I am not worried about fast breaks. Our main issue is team defense that allows for fastbreak points. Frankly, while Lowry is pretty solid on defense, he isn't exactly an elite defender. And can be shot over just as easily as Brooks by some of the guards we might be facing in the playoffs or simply outplayed. And to be honest, neither Artest nor Battier have consistently been playing elite defense in most of our games. Hopefully they will flip that switch during the playoffs but as it is right now, our best bet is defense.
We don't often agree but you're 100% correct. Turnovers be damned...they are making errors of commission rather than omission. The fact the Rockets management has recognized the need to speed things up means they'll focus on players who will upgrade the transition game. You can't solve a problem until it's recognized.
I think Von's biggest problem last night was his lack of experience. I don't think he ever came against a player (Korver) who would just stand in front of him in a fastbreak.
Would I like us to run it better? Yes. But, I think that the second team runs pretty well, and the team in general runs fast breaks better than they used to... so no, I don't worry. Additionally, the game will slow down in the playoffs, so I think our ability to play fast or slow will benefit us, over say a team that only plays one speed well.
I think it's a injustice to compare one of the all time best NBA team to a team led by Francis. Francis and Mobley had terrible basketball IQ. Just being athletic does not guarantee a good fast breaking team. You have to have good passing, smart, speed, as well as chemistry (something which tends to be overlooked). Celtics did not have two midget guards leading the break or a swingman camping out at 3. Danny Ainge, Dennis Johnson were not afraid to go to the basket. Bird and McHale were not high flyers but both were pretty quick, deceptive, and elusive. Celtics might not have been high flyers but they were not physically challenged (slow and small) either. Besides being a great passing team, what was going for Celtics was years of playing together (chemistry) and basketball smarts. In any case, I think Celtics are more of an exception. Again, we are talking about one of the best teams in the history of the NBA. Rockets of the early and mid 90s were damn good fast break team and it was certainly because of Kenny and Vernon's speed, and Horry, Thorpe, Hakeem, and Clyde's athleticsm. Clyde's Portland team was an amazing fast break team and it was because of Clyde, Robinson, and Kersey being athletic which made it easy for Terry Porter. You have already mentioned the Lakers. Sure these teams had the smarts, passing and chemistry, but they were athletic too. Besides not being smart with the ball, the current Rockets team is physically challenged. They dont have athletic finishers. They dont have a guard yet (maybe Lowry will develop into one), who you can be comfortable with running a fast break in a pressure situation either. A team with fast athletic finishers is more likely to complete fast breaks. A team with slow and nonathletic players is more susceptible to having their shots changed or blocked.
Right now the only effective players at fastbreaks are Lowry, Scola and Landry. Sometimes Brooks or Wafer, but this two are more like random, they go for the rim, and for the rim alone, cannot make a pass on the break to save their lives.
You don't even understand what I'm talking about, let alone basketball. I said AB is not a good fastbreak passer, that's just a fact. He doesn't know how to pass the ball to the right person at the right position, that's it.
