[FANIQ] Worst 10 Draft Day Trades - 2 Rockets Mentioned

Buy the League Pass and watch Grizzly games instead posting ignorant stuff like this.

 

start talking about Gay vs. Battier and you start a debate...

put it in the context of Sefalosha vs. Battier and and get a good nights sleep with happy marshmallow dreams

 

So he's on a bad team? Anything to add that we don't know?

Again, by saying he's a "marginal NBA player", you're saying he barely belongs in the league. Should we stop taking you seriously now, or would you like to renege on that statement?

 

So let's put Gay on an NBA level meter ok? You have offense and you have defense.

For offense I say Gay get around an 8.5. For Defense he gets a 2 (hello, one fo the worst man-to-man defenders in the league?).

10.5/2 = 5.25 out of 10. Seems marginal to me.

Anybody who wouldn't do the Battier trade in hindsight doesn't know anything about winning basketball games. Yeah go for the overpaid defenseless shooter who doesn't like contact. And you wonder why the Grizz are still stuck in the dumps a bazillion lottery picks later.

 

Exactly man, I'm totally with yo. Not to mention if you're saying Gay gets his stats because he's on a "bad" team, you'd do well to remember than the Grizzlies were only 2 games behind the Rockets buddy.

Knowing that, you can't deny his stats, they are the only hard evidence to debate this by. The only thing holding together Gay vs Battier as a real debate - since Gay obviously dwarfs Battier's stats completely - is that Battier is the "intangibles" guy, who's presence is defined by things off the stat sheet...is impossible to quantify conclusively and use as evidence that the intangibles mean more than Gay's stats.

 

Way to throw out arbitrary numbers. Are we seriously having this discussion whether Gay is a marginal NBA player? Meaning he's 12th man-type player and is lucky to be on a roster? Do we have the same definition of "marginal"? It's hard to take this discussion seriously anymore.

 

The "article" can't spell Eddie Griffin's name. Richard Jefferson hasn't done much besides when he was able to run the break with one of the best 5 PG's of all time.

The Gay/Battier/Swift deal has been beaten to death over the years, but him not acknowledging Swift is idiotic

 

Arbitrary numbers which make sense, you simply can't deny that Gay being one of the worst defenders in the league negates whatever offensive talents he may have. So what if he can score 20 when his opponent goes off for 18? Its not like his 20 pts are uberly efficient, like I said he hates contact and oftens babies shots.

He's a freaking liability on the court. If that ain't marginal I don't know what is.

 

I see. Is Kevin Martin a marginal NBA player?

Quit exaggerating.

 

You are right in the absolute literal interpretation, let me rephrase.

Rudy Gay is an overated, soon to be overpaid, high TO, no defense, high flash, low iq, low win player.

He is good enough to be the 3rd or 4th best player on a championship caliber team, but while demanding 14+ million, he pretty much makes it impossible to obtain without spending 100+ million.

Hope that clears up the confusion.

 

I have to disagree on the Griffin trade. That was a total clusterf**k from get go. The kid spends 1 year (that's O N E year) at Seton Hall, gets into a fight with teammate Ty Shine, leaves Seton Hall and declares for the NBA draft. And that is an indication that he was worth THREE first round draft picks? Dawson should have been terminated on the spot for that. Instead, he ignored evidence that Griffin was immature and unstable and then when his size, athleticism, youth and skills didn't translate to basketball court, he moved Kenny Thomas because he was outplaying the so-called "top 5 pick potential" Griffin. The rest is, as they say, His Stor Ry.

 

Yeah I remembered that. I left immediately afterwards upset.

 

1) Martin isn't one of the worst defenders in the NBA

2) Martin actually likes contact and is in fact one of the most efficient players in league history due to the high rate he gets, takes, and makes his Fts.

PPG is one of the most useless stats out there. Its not how many you get, its how efficiently you get them.

 

1) Wrong

2) He does not like contact on defense. He'll work hard to score but disappears on the other side of the court. Sort of like... Rudy Gay?

 

1) Show me articles that say Martin is one of the worst defenders in the league, maybe then I'll believe what you say. Saying "wrong" without any evidence is just you making stuff up.

2) Liking contact on one side of the ball is better than not liking contact at all. Again Martin is one of the most efficient players in NBA history. Once Gay has a tag like that you can say I'm off the mark.

 

1) The fact that you need "articles" is laughable. Use your eyes. Watch a game or two. His defensive ineptitude is stands out more than TMac's lazy eye. But here's an "article" anyway, as if this somehow proves he doesn't play defense:

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawaka...tarring-martin-jamison-durant-and-don-nelson/

2) Like I said, Gay will work for his shots and take it to the hole. I wouldn't say he doesn't like contact at all. Martin and Gay are very similar in that sense - one-sided players. Gay shot 47% last year - hardly inefficient at all. Yet somehow Martin is a star and Gay is "marginable". Come on dude.

 

Little correction ...

Luis had total of 56 for his whole 3 years while Gay has 64 in just 1 year

CMIIW

 

Who the hell is Eddie "Greffen"? Anyway, while it sucks not having Rudy Gay, I'll take Kevin martin anyday, especially since Gay thinks that some dumb GM will give him a max contract. Move along. Also, how many playoff wins has Rudy Gay lead his team to? In my opinion, he was the THIRD best player in Memphis last year. As far as Eddie Griffin goes, yes that was a bad trade. But how many teams have over valued a 6'10"-7', high jumping, shot blocking athletic PF? I think there is one pretty much every year in the draft.....

 

Why do you hate Sir Charles?

 

Yeah I was at the Toyota Center that day too. Everybody was really pissed and booing.