[FANIQ] Worst 10 Draft Day Trades - 2 Rockets Mentioned

That's how you determine bad trades, looking back. The Griffin trade was a bad trade. Lets not be rockets homers about it.

Jefferson has clearly had a better career then Griffin did, RIP. It's like saying drafting Kwame Brown wasn't that bad, he had the talent, he just didn't work hard etc (not that I believe that!).

You look back at a trade and see if the teams got what they were looking for. The rox clearly got the short end of that trade. Sure we needed a shooting power forward, and if he worked out, it would have been perfect, but he didn't, alas it was a bad trade.

 

What are you smoking?

 

Battier is still better than Gay, who remains the very worst defender in the NBA...

 

This could be true...but isn't it possible that Gay could have been a much better defender under JVG?

Battier is a great defensive player but he would be that on any team. Thinking back, we may have gotten more out of both the players and the coaching staff if we traded for a player who was better on the other side of the floor.

 

they also got out of stromile swifts contract. that seems to be a forgotten part of the trade.

stro was sigmed to full MLE and just a year later they realized it was a mistake. they used the pick to dump his contract and take back battier.

 

Actually, we had the 8th pick that we traded away. I remember watching the draft at the Toyota Center and everyone cheered once we found out that Gay was available for our pick. As soon as the trade was announced, the entire crowd booed and I remember Bill Worrell who was hosting, said "Don't shoot the messenger!".

 

the battier trade was CD's doing. i was one of the biggest objectors of that trade on this board. but shane won me over quickly. no way we take the lakers to 7 with gay. i still wish we tanked some games to get roy but watever. i hated jvg as the coach, wasnt a fan of CD, and hated battier just b/c he was a duke guy and seemed overrated.

i was wrong on all accounts. jvg n thibodeau were great for our defensive game, CD gave up too much for shane but he got rid of swift, and shane personifies what being a houston rocket is.

i kinda wish we never traded for barkley. im sure if that stockton 3 hadnt gone in we'd have 3peated and i would b singin a diff tune.

 

I'm glad we got Battier. I prefer Vets more than Rookies when you're building to win immediately.

We were at that time. It was a good move.

 

Really? Both sides of the court? We got Shane Battier in that trade...

 

We didn't even really trade Battier for Swift + Rudy Gay, we traded Swift + unknown 8th pick for a known quantity in Shane Battier.

In hindsight, I might rather have Gay considering the fall from grace Tmac has taken since then. However, looking at most drafts, how often does an 8th pick hit? Battier was an 8th pick. People are acting like we knew the guy was going to be a superstar when we dealt him.

And that draft class in particular was pretty weak. In that draft alone, just looking at the top 8 picks alone, a good 3 of them are considered busts already. And 2 of them you would probably gladly rather have Battier than (Foye and Bargs, good players but I'd rather have Battier).

 

I would do the Shane trade 100 times out of 100. He's been one of the biggest pieces of Rockets defensive success for quite some time.

 

That is the philosophy that resulted in 4-5 seasons of disaster as the Rockets were NEVER able to score enough points to compete, they never found a 3rd scorer.

uhhh, Jefferson was 20ppg player on multiple teams that made the finals

 

Are you serious? Jefferson has had several all-star caliber seasons despite never officially making the team, has notched a couple of 20 ppg or 18+ PER season while playing major minutes and starting. (and no, it was not merely due to playing with Jason Kidd) . Griffin was an epic bust who couldn't get his life together off the court or on it. There's no comparison.

Posey doesn't really stack up that well next to Jefferson either in terms of career accomplishments, Jefferson has simply been far more productive on an efficiency, seasonal and an overall basis (despite Posey having played 4 more years). Posey maybe had 1 season (2004 with Memphis) in which he was as good or better than Jefferson. For the rest of their careers it was Jefferson in a landslide.

 

Well, he did have his best seasons when he was playing with Jason Kidd.

 

I don't have the stat link now, but I distincly recall in the past that his per-game averages consistently rose when Kidd was injured or not playing.

And his best season was in 2007-08, when Kidd spent the second half of the season playing for Dallas.

 

at the time, Battier was a role player. Gay could be a franchise all star player.
In the end, Battier did not help Rocket win anything. Gay is a max level player.

It was a bad trade from day one.
It looks horrible now.

 

I love how we are never mentioned by ppl outside Houston besides when its to bash and talk negative.. f the outside media and the comicle

 

Looking back at all those playoff games where we only had 2 players scoring in double figures, we could've used Gay.

It wasn't a horrible trade, but I didn't like it.

 

If you're shelling out $15mm per year for Rudy gay....you probably need a new GM.

He's a nice player but his production is pretty much limited to scoring 20 ppg and that's it. He's the black Kevin Martin.

 

I will speak my peace then bow out. It was a terrible trade then and even worse now. In fairness, i was for the trade because i thought shane could be a legit 15ppg playing with tracy and yao. I also kept waiting to hear what else the rockets were getting but it never came. Swift's contract wasnt bad and mle contracts are probably the easiest contracts to move especially for a 25 yr old upside big. So that really wasnt an issue. The trade was 100% morey and had his prints all over it. CD for all his faults, always took big upside. After 1 playoff series i realized battier was a dud and didn't have what it took to seize the big moment in the playoffs. 4 yrs later,we've been trying to find a 3rd scorer, but now one star is busted up and gone while the other is busted up and on his last legs.

In regards to griffin and the 3 picks, i wanted haywood,randolph,and then morris. The francis led squad needed a better 4 in zach and a better center in haywood and a multi skilled 3 in morris. When they made the selection. i understood, but griifin had faults. He had poor shot selection and had some inner deamons. Looking back, he is really the kind of pf that really compliments yao even before they drafted yao. A tall rangy rebounding shot blocking 4 who can also slide over and play center. I personally think rudy kinda ruined him his rookie year by having him shooting all those 3's. With his rebounding and shot blocking, if he couldve been a 15ft jump shooter, the rockets wouldve had a pretty good 4/5 combo. He went out in a bad way for such a young man. Some say he never recovered from his uncle passing away. I also remember seeing him in club tonic his rookie year when he
was on the injured list. I started to really question his dedication,but it was easy to catch all those guys in the club any day of the week.