Falsone, the Strength Coach of Rockets has arrived China

I hear you I really do, but muscle tone shows me discipline factor....thats all I'm sayin

Ice cream and steak won't cut it

Is it really so bad that I'm askin for some discipline weight liftin from a millionaire athlete whos only job is to get in shape

I'm just sayin it didn't look like muscle to me....it looked like he gained from eatin not from hittin the gym.....am I really askin to much.......I just want YAO in shape...and those pics I saw didn't impress me much

 

"Fat" is the wrong word in terms of calling them fat. A better word is them getting too "heavy" for their strength/weight ratio.

But, remember. When a player is 300 lbs during the regular season, then comes back in the off-season at 320 lbs. That extra 20lbs is NOT muscle.

It's fat. Plain and simple. Yao shouldn't be 320 lbs. It's too heavy for his knees/feet.

His optimum weight should be around 305-307.

That would be 5lbs to 7lbs more muscle mass in two years. That's real lean muscle mass that he can put to good use during the rigors of the NBA season.

 

I know he's 7'6" and all but come on. How do you pack on that much weight that fast being as active as Yao?

 

Exactly.............

It's a pretty scary question...............and I don't know if I want the answer

 

let me get this stright, last season, Yao is too skining, need to gain weight, and everybody is saying how Yao should have lifting weight during the summer, and Yao did just that, and now everybody say Yao should lose weight and he is fat!

 

windandsea,

yep. he's a real ****** now. someone call jenny craig.



jshabang & DavidS,


have you considered that these athletes actually need some body fat given the physical demands they experience? the human body burns fat first, you do know, right? without any body fat, eventually you begin to tear and burn muscle, which i'm sure you do not want.

i hear what you're saying about wanting the dedication, but the truth is that not everyone is karl malone. not everyone is that fanatical about keeping in shape. then again....karl has how many rings?

as for the steak & ice cream, fuggedaboudid. the steak is high protein. the ice cream, yea, he needs to cut back on that one. no big deal.

bottom line....don't worry 'bout it. if he comes in with 7-10lbs of extra muscle and 5-6lbs of body fat, i'd be peachy keen with it.

 

Wow, windandsea. You really ARE amazing!
It's almost scary.

If you look at the photos windandsea provided and check the time-line it's clear that Yao is filling out and isn't "fat". Whether or not he'd be in even better shape if he were here is certainly up for argument, but I'm pleased with the progress I see. The guy is not a "stick".


(I still wish he could get his rear back here... asap)
(WITH his girlfriend!)

 

It can't be more than 40 minutes, FIBA game is 40 minutes. I did not hear any overtime.

 

Both you are windandsea are taking this too personal. It's almost like I called your mother fat!

I'm talking about sports science. Not Jerry Springer name calling.

And, 7-10 of extra muscle is fine. But 300 to 320 is NOT muscle.

It's about 3-5 of muscle, with 12-15 of fat.

That's not good. That's all we're saying. And that's the reason that Falsone is there.

So, to recap the use of the word, "fat."

fat = fatty tissue/percentage

fat NOT = you're a fat ass!

Do you understand the difference, windandsea?

 

take a look at the scars on his body

 

DavidS,


what makes you believe it's only 3-5lbs of muscle and 12-15lbs of fat? why can't it be 1/2 and 1/2? also...spread over a 7'5" frame, is 12lbs of fat even noticeable? look at the pics windandsea posted. where do you detect "fat"?

 

true dat


He looks great. He needs weight, and better too much than too little when the season starts. Not so for Mo, but true for Yao. While he has to carry that extra weight, so do the guys who guard him, the ones he leans on for position. Strength is great in the leaning battle, but weight rules.

My first up close look at Yao was last fall when they had the preseason practice. I was troubled by the size of his torso and upper body. His legs are tree trunks, which was a relief, but those shoulders looked emaciated. Now they look much, much better, just 10 months later.


I am so excited about the coMING season. I think his sophomore year will be his breakout year. He's going to have poise, confidence, and ref cred he didn't have for much of last season.

thanks for all the photos to those who provided them

 

remember that he ended the season at 310 so really he's only gained 10lbs since then

 

That is a little bit fat. I want him to move some weight from belly to chest.

 

As a skinny guy who's made a few half-hearted stabs at adding a few rips nd cuts to the ol' frame in the last couple years, I know a little about how we "thin body type" peeps bulk up.

Yao is a freaking giant, and guys that big need to eat an insane amount of food to give them the energy to keep their heart beating, let alone play basketball every damn day of their lives. Yao was probably born with the same body type he has now: pretty waifish.

Maybe they have some miracle roids in the upper echelons of professional sports that can help you out with this, but the only surefire way for skinny dudes like Yao and I to pack on the pounds is by eating way, way, wayyyy more. Doubling your caloric intake is a good start. Now, for me, this is a huge hassle. To do it right I'd basically have to eat six decent meals a day. Let me tell you how long I tried to make *that* work. Just guess. Anyways, the easier route is to eat/drink/supposit a bunch of meal supplements. Lots of smoothies, people. But Yao probably ALREADY eats a ton of food, so doubling that amount has got to be, honestly, bizarre to watch.

Now, just eating twice as much is only hal the battle, but the more important half. The other half is pumping iron. Let me just tell you how sad I was when I found out that pumping iron doesn't pay off in a few months. Not when you're dealing with this degree of skinniness. You can watch your body get bigger slowly, but you ain't gonna have delts like Scottie Quitten for a long-ass time. Getting cut isn't what you're after though -- you're trying to build mass.

Which is exactly what Yao has done. The object of folks with our body type is too pack it on with calories and protein, pump weight, and get bigger. There will be no ripping and cutting during this stage.

Once you're big and have been pumping iron, you are now "functionally strong." You have the build to push people around now (I've never made it this far, sadly). You aren't ripped, though. To get cut, you must change your diet and excercises in order to burn fat and maintain your muscles.

So, essentially what I'm saying is that skinny people like Yao don't bulk up by lifting weights all day. They bulk up by eating a just plain silly amount of food and turning that into size. Later on, if desired, they can change it up and do routines that make them look pretty. But right now Yao looks EXACTLY like he's supposed to given what he needed to gain and the given time period for doing so.

 

Well, that's just the way the body works.

Lets say that you are 250lbs, with 4 or 5 percent body fat.

You end the season, and you take it easy.

Now, in 3 or 4 month, you gain, 30 lbs.
Why? Because you body has all this extra calories to burn off, but you aren't pushing yourself the same rate.

So, it's very easy to pack on the weight when you stop pushing yourself at the same rate.

Yao is not working as hard as he did in the NBA. Remember, the NBA is 82 games, week after week, riggorous!

So, he's coasting right now on tour. So, it's safe to say that a lot of the extra weight he has gained is due to extra fat his body has collected due to his less riggorous workouts.

If you workout less, and then include ice cream, snaks, and junk food in your diet, you will gain fat.

I'm not saying that Yao is doing that. I'm just saying that when you are in the "off-season" it's easy to do those things without noticing the weight gain.

It's slight, but noticeable over a few months.