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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by codell, Jun 23, 2004.

  1. Ying Yang

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    If this is true then get ready for more of the same till his contract runs out!
     
  2. Rockets2K

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    sorry dude....as much as I wanted to give our guys another year to get better......this is done...he is gone.

    it may not be official yet....but all signs point to TM being in a Rockets uni soon.
     
  3. TraJ

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    We all know Steve isn't going anywhere -- but he is moving. ;)
     
  4. silent j

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    I much prefer this scenario where we take back 3 solid starters rather than 1 superstar and a bunch of guys who will just fill up the roster.
    j
     
  5. ymc

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    If this trade doesn't go through, there will be a domino effect.

    First, SF3 will be traded for some schrubs. Then Yao learned that we have no hope and requested a trade to join Kobe. At the end of the day, we ends up with a bunch of nobodies!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:
     
  6. TheFreak

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    There are so many hilarious aspects to this. Francis forces a trade to Houston, and the fans here all love it- they don't care, as long as they get a good player. Now Francis is trying to do the same thing to the Rockets, and he's an ass. Hilarious! Then there's of course the fact that McGrady's doing the exact same thing, only worse, to his own team, and Houston fans again don't care, as long as they benefit! Great stuff!
     
  7. MadMax

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    sign up for a first year contracts class at South Texas Law School or UH Law Center. good luck. :)
     
  8. SamCassell

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    Or if you want to learn at a good school, try UT.
     
  9. MadMax

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    ouch!

    of course, you'll have a better chance of passing the bar at the ones i mentioned.
     
  10. SamCassell

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    :p

    Ten Year Average Bar Passage Rate
     
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  11. TheFreak

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    I don't get it.
     
  12. MadMax

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    wow..that's interesting. it certainly wasn't like that when i was in law school.

    but i'm not trying to compare the schools...just throwing back a jab! :)
     
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  13. MadMax

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    tracy mcgrady is an impending free agent whose team has approached him about trading him away so they can realize some value for him in the event he chooses to walk away.

    steve francis signed a max dollars multi-year deal...he is under contract for quite some time.

    free agents get to choose where they go...players under contract don't. if you don't like it, you can sign one year deals over and over again. but if you want the financial reward of committing to a long-term deal, then you recognize it's possible you might be traded. when your contract expires, then you can look elsewhere and talk about where you will or won't play. unless of course you're really serious and you choose to walk away from your contract entirely, leaving behind all that money you bargained for.
     
  14. AroundTheWorld

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    The difference is that Francis has a valid contract which incorporates or references the collective bargaining agreement. Under this agreement, he really does not have a right to object to the trade and say "he will sit out", if I am not mistaken, yet, he is doing it (if the reports are right), thereby not abiding by the terms of an agreement he signed (and he is being compensated very well for it).

    McGrady, on the other hand, is not saying that he will not honor his contract. He merely informed his current team that he will not renew his contract once his term is up. This gives his current team an opportunity to trade him and thereby receive some value in return, as opposed to McGrady just leaving when his contract is up and them receiving nothing.

    I hope this made it clear.

    MadMax was referring to getting a basic understanding of the concept of honoring a contract.
     
  15. AroundTheWorld

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    Okay, I typed this at the same time, Max :).
     
  16. MadMax

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    that's alright..yours was better!
     
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    I believe when I was at UH, it had the highest or second highest bar pass rate in Texas. Then again, I took the NY bar exam, not the Texas one, so I might be wrong...
     
  18. MadMax

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    it was at least second every year i was there, i think....and ut was really super low one year i was there...like 99 or something?? i mean like it was ut...and then tsu. it was low.

    baylor was #1 every year i was there, i think.
     
  19. SamCassell

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    Just playin with ya, Max. :cool:

    As to the contract issue, it ties the player to a dollar amount, but the player still has de facto input about his team, if he's a superstar. Witnessed all the time when players under long-term contracts demand a trade, that team trades him pretty much 100% of the time. Cheap move, sure, classless, no doubt, but no team wants a player who's bound and determined not to play for them.

    Oh, last year's bar passage rate. TSU, ouch
     
  20. TheFreak

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    So McGrady is not under contract for next year? He's a free agent? I don't understand why you're talking about free agency here. Seems to me the only difference b/t Francis and McGrady is the number of years left on their SIGNED deals. McGrady says he only wants Houston. Francis says he doesn't want Orlando. Both are under contract.

    I'd be curious to hear your opinion on the Rockets' acquisition of Francis- were you in favor of it? Was it cool what Francis did to Vancouver?
     

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