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Fake Menstrual Blood Used Among Guantanamo Interrogation Techniques

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Invisible Fan, May 9, 2005.

  1. giddyup

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    What would you do to/with them? Are you going to wish them away? Love them to death? C'mon, really, what are you going to do?
     
  2. giddyup

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    Say more about these people being picked up "at random..."
     
  3. MadMax

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    eh...you guys get the extremist tag...we get the fundamentalist tag...i'm not sure what either really means! and i know the people who say it don't! :D
     
  4. Manny Ramirez

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    All I want to know about this is the welfare of Willie Santiago.
     
  5. MadMax

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    YOU'RE DAMN RIGHT I ORDERED THE CODE RED!!!!!!!!
     
  6. FranchiseBlade

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    With which ones? The half that turn out not to be deemed a threat, or the half that are?
     
  7. GladiatoRowdy

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    As FB mentioned, these people couls be treated as either prisoners of war or be moved through our legal system. Neither of these situations could be construed as "wish[ing] them away" or "lov[ing] them to death."

    Anything would be better than holding them incommunicado without the benefit of a lawyer, trial, appeals process, or any recourse for as long as we see fit.
     
  8. Sishir Chang

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    Well since I'm apparently a narrow minded Evolutionists I have to say this was totally random. ;)
     
  9. MadMax

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    really?? ANYTHING???

    Exhibit A:

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  10. giddyup

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    At one point they were all deemed a threat. As possible, they were eliminated and released.

    My question was aimed at all the enemy. Do you really want our courts tied up with enemy combatant cases? They are overloaded as is and these dogs don't deserve our judicial system.

    I know.. you are saying "What about the innocent ones?" There is no satisfactory answer there except to point up the obvious: the system is not nor will it ever be perfect.
     
  11. giddyup

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    I thought they didn't meet the definition of POW and aren't most of them captured abroad rather than here? So are we left, again, with wishing them away or loving them to death?
     
  12. FranchiseBlade

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    I would rather not submit innocents to imprisonment, and possible humiliation and torture, because the courts are crowded. The legal system doesn't just decide it is ok to not give people trials because there are a lot of cases.

    Having crowded courts is not a suitable excuse for this.
     
  13. Manny Ramirez

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    :D


    Jessep: "You ****in' people. You have no idea how to defend a nation. All you did was weaken a country today, Kaffee. That's all you did. You put people's lives in danger. Sweet dreams, son."
    Kaffee: "Don't call me son. I'm a lawyer and an officer in the United States Navy. And you're under arrest, you son of a b****."


    I need to watch this movie again...soon.
     
  14. giddyup

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    That was a very secondary reason. The primary reason is that these guys are not due due process because they are enemy combatants.
     
  15. MadMax

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    this movie and JFK are two minor reasons why i went to law school :)
     
  16. FranchiseBlade

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    I understand they are designated as that. But with so many being found to not be a threat, why don't we change the designation to POW, or move them through the legal system. It isn't hard to do.
     
  17. pirc1

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    Too bad we are in the modern "civilized" period. Other wise I am sure G.B. could use the old Chinese rule "Even if you have to kill 100 innocent people, do not let one guilty one go free."
     
  18. GladiatoRowdy

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    "Enemy combatants" would prime them for POW status, IMO. If we are truly in a "war on terrorism," then these people are POWs and should have the rights accorded to such people.
     
  19. MR. MEOWGI

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    I'm not reading all of these posts but...

    Should tactics concerning shared Muslim beliefs really be used for "coercing information"? Aren't we trying to get Muslims work with us? Why are we shocked when they denounce us when we enter their countries on their behalf? This would seem to work against our efforts as a whole.
     
  20. StupidMoniker

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    Since they are defined as unlawful enemy combatants (mostly because they are not agents of a state) they do not qualify as POWs. There is also no need to grant them the right accorded to regular Americans. What we are doing is perfectly legitimate.

    Bringing up the fact that we have let so many of them go only hurts your case. It shows that once we have determined that they are not a threat or a source of intel on the enemy, we set them free. That should show you that we are not holding people without cause or at random, as has been suggested. We are investigating and questioning them and cutting loose those who are innocent.

    I still have yet to see any suggestions of how to interrogate them without using any physical or psychological pressure.
     

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