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Fake Menstrual Blood Used Among Guantanamo Interrogation Techniques

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Invisible Fan, May 9, 2005.

  1. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    You are right Sam. Since we have let people go who possibly weren't guilty, we should shutter the entire operation down there in Gitmo. While we're at it, we should just free all inmates at all prisons in the US, since it's possible that one or more of them are innocent. After that's done we should just go ahead and shut down our entire judicial system -- surely it has made mistakes in the past. The good news? When it's all said and done, we won't have a need for lawyers anymore! Then you can leave with a clear conscience for Tibet and smoke opium with the native farmhands for the rest of your life.
     
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  3. El_Conquistador

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    First of all, if all these peaceniks in San Francisco and like parts of the country think they can do a better job over in Iraq, then by all means send them over there. Give them a one-way ticket and tell them to come back when the war on terror is complete.

    Second, if you support the troops, you do not snobbishly and condescendingly put down their hard work by ridiculing it. Especially when most of the naysayers don't have one nanosecond of experience in a war.
     
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    Wow, when we liberals complain about a war that was started on lies and manipulation we're branded as un american, soldier hating, terrorist loving softies. Now we have TJ mocking the judicial system and about half of our bill of rights, guaranteed to us in the constitution. Way to go Traitor Jorge! Just to hell with everyone's civil rights because anyone could be a terrorist. And you can never be to sure. And when it's all done (as if it will ever be done) just say "sorry for locking you up and torturing you, we just wanted to be sure you weren't a terrorist or had any dealings with terrorists" Have a nice day. Tell me TJ, if you were a hostage, would you want your government negotiating with the terrorist to get you released? come on now, you always use this arguement against us bleeding hearts.
    It's funny how Republicans value the ten commandments more than the US Constitution. go figure.
     
  5. bigtexxx

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    I am calling you out as a liar. Prove your wild claims. You are on the clock. Your credibility (or what little shred is left of it) is at stake.
     
  6. giddyup

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    I was addressing your accusation made of bigtexx...
     
  7. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    I would want my government to act in their best interest, as I trust that they will do the right thing. See, I'm willing to make sacrifices for the War on Terror, liberals on the other hand, scream and cry to the high heavens when they think the government can figure out what LIBRARY BOOKS they are checking out. Typical liberals.

    Look, none of this is about the liberals' genuine concern for the rights of the terrorists, it's just another part of their incessant complaining about our military and the job of our troops. How can these liberals claim they are supporting the troops, when they bash their efforts every chance they get, and ONLY highlight the negative? Some support that is...
     
  8. nyquil82

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    dude, I have nothing wrong if you believe that all the muslims are terrorists, that's your opinion and our constitution allows you to believe that. You shouldn't have to play with the liberal propoganda that everyone needs to be tolerant, if you hate a group you should feel free to hate them. If you think certain types of people should be tortured because of who they support are what they believe, that's your belief to have, you shouldn't be ashamed that you hate them for who they are.

    lastly, i don't think you have any credibility to give false threats when you have no more power than any other scrub on this board.
     
  9. bigtexxx

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    I don't believe that all muslims are terrorists. That is absurd, and a LIE. You are a liar and a slanderer.

    Your credibility is FOREVERMORE TARNISHED. You will live in shame for the rest of your days on the bbs.
     
  10. nyquil82

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    sorry for emulating your debate skills
     
  11. AMS

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    how about give them a trial before abusing them :rolleyes:

    i love it how you all jump to accusations on who knows how many innocents.

    many have been released and were never a part of any terrorist activities, heck MOST have been like that. and you say its better than 911.

    would you like to arrest all the people in a certain neighborhood just because one person from there goes on a killing spree? didnt think so, why is it so different now? because they are muslims? because they pray to the same god? because tehy arent of your skin color?

    pathetic

    http://www.cageprisoners.com/
     
  12. Smokey

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    Free lap dances? Sweet unless the chicks looked like Lyndie England.
     
  13. nyquil82

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    ok, i'll take back the "all" claim, but I'll change to "many," and maybe we can turn this back to a reasonable debate, I just think that it's definetly stereotyping when you assume people are guilty when they had no fair trial, and even still, being guilty for for what they believe but have not perpetrated.

    9/11 was very traumatic for many Americans, again, I can understand why you may feel a certain way towards a certain group of people and why you feel there should be some sort of vindication towards those that come from what may seem to be the same group, even though the actual perpetrators are dead. I'm not saying that it's bad to feel that way, it's understandable, so I was not insulting you.

    Second, it's my opinion, so you can't accuse me of lying about my opinion, otherwise what you said would also be a lie.

    and as far as my credibility, I don't mind if its tarnished if its within the minds of those on the far right, your credibility from those on the left is no better.
     
  14. AMS

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    you know, adultery, looking at women, and sexual relations before marriage is against islam, and when that is something your totally against and it happens to you, you seriously feel disgusted and guilty, i cant even imagine how wrong this type of torture is. :(
     
  15. FranchiseBlade

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    What about the claim you made where you would use violence against a group of middle eastern men on an airplane who were standing by the bathroom.

    That claim was because the men were middle eastern. Of course it turned out they were part of a band and innocent of any wrong doing, but you had already said that you would violence against them.

    That shows that you were willing to use violence against people because of their nationality and with no regard as to whether they were actually terrorists or not.

     
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    How 'bout changing all and/or many and replacing it with those that the US military believe are or may have info leading to some that are?

    Look, we can all sit on our fat asses and cut and paste internet articles all we want (on a basketball bbs) about whether we think the Gitmo prisoners are innocent or guilty but the bottom line is that we know NOTHING about what really is (or is not) going on over there.
     
  17. El_Conquistador

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    What about flying planes into buildings and killing 3,000 people? Is that against Islam?

    I have no sympathy for terrorists who are being tortured, regardless of their religion.
     
  18. AMS

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    comparing apples with oranges jorge, no one said that the people that didn 9-11 were right.

    do you not understand when i say that MOST OF THESE PRISONERS, HAVE NOT GOTTEN ANY TRIAL, HAVE NOT BEEN NAMED TERRORISTS BY ANY DAMN COURT, what the hell gives you the right to do so?

    they are mearly "suspects". and treating any suspect as they are being treated is inhumane, and u damn well know that.
     
  19. nyquil82

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    you're absolutely right, we don't know exactly what's going on there, but we didn't know what was going on in the japanese internment camps or the jewish camps during the holocaust. How do we know we aren't repeating history unless we know what's going on there?
     
  20. FranchiseBlade

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    That is not true. We do know some things. We don't know everything. We know that some people are being held without trial or access to lawyers. We know that govt. has released a number of people after locking them up for a period of time, because it turns out they weren't a threat and didn't need to be there in the first place.
     

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