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Fake Meat So Good It Will Freak You Out

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Invisible Fan, Jul 27, 2012.

  1. Invisible Fan

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    This is the first I've heard of this. The "extrusion process" reminds me of pink slime. Somehow, I don't feel as horrified about it...

    I'll be sure to pick some up for some taste tests this weekend...

    http://www.slate.com/articles/techn...es_so_real_it_will_freak_you_out_.single.html
    The first time a vegetarian tastes Beyond Meat’s ersatz animal flesh, he’ll feel delighted and queasy at the same time. There’s something about the way these fake chicken strips break on your teeth, the way they initially resist and then yield to your chew, the faint fatty residue they leave on your palate and your tongue—something about the whole experience that feels a little too real.

    “My first reaction was, if I was given this in a restaurant, I’d get the waiter to come over and ask if he’d accidentally given us real chicken,” says Biz Stone, one of the founders of Twitter, who has been vegan for more than a decade. “It has a plumpness to it, what they call a ‘mouthfeel,’ like a kind of fattiness. When you eat other leading meat analogues, they’re delicious, but you kind of know they’re not real. They’re missing something that’s hard to identify. This has a very realistic, meaty, delicious quality.”
    I’m not a vegetarian, and I love real meat, but for various health and ethical reasons, I’ve long tried to cut down on eating animals. As a result, I’ve tried every fake meat there is. Every few years, a new one comes along, each promising unprecedented verisimilitude. A decade ago, there was Quorn, which is made of a fungus called mycoprotein and tastes pretty chicken-y. A few years later, there was Gardein, which has won many high-profile testimonials to its meatiness. (Ellen DeGeneres loves it.) My personal favorite fake meat is Field Roast, a kind of sausage that—to me—tastes nearly as good as the real deal. (A panel of Slate tasters agrees!)
    But I’ve never tasted anything as realistic as Beyond Meat. The chicken strips look, feel, and taste closer to real meat than any other food I’ve ever eaten. They’re more tender and moist than Quorn and Gardein, they’re not packed with sodium (like many of Morningstar’s products), and unlike Field Roast, they don’t taste grainy or vegetal.

    Beyond Meat is not perfect. Its faux chicken breaks apart in your mouth more easily than real chicken, so you won’t get strips of it stuck in your teeth. (In this way, I thought they resembled chicken breasts that have been prepared sous vide—the process of cooking food at low temperatures for a long time, yielding extremely tender results). But you only notice the slight differences if you’re looking for them. If you taste Beyond Meat’s chicken in a dish alongside regular chicken, there’s a good chance you’ll be fooled. This year, after tasting them in a sandwich wrap, New York Times food writer Mark Bittman mistook the fake stuff for the real stuff. So, too, have many others in the company’s taste tests. And once you forget you’re eating something fake, you will too. Over several days of eating Beyond Meat in sandwiches, salads, and burritos, I forgot I was eating something that didn’t come from a living creature. I was just eating something tasty.
    The biggest problem with Beyond Meat is that most people can’t get it yet. After years of developing its meat, the firm is just starting to ramp up production, and at the moment its chicken strips are available only at Whole Foods stores in Northern California—and they’re only in salads, sandwiches, and other prepared food. Later this year, the chicken strips will be sold in select supermarkets for people to take home and prepare for themselves. Next year, the company plans to launch the chicken nationally. Soon, it will also offer its take on ground beef.

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    I’m rooting for Beyond Meat. I talk to new tech companies every day, and I’ve rarely come across a firm that has created such a fantastic product aimed at solving such a big problem. Real meat is delicious, but it’s terrible in nearly every other way. Meat is environmentally toxic and colossally inefficient, ethically dubious (even if you’re OK with killing animals, raising and slaughtering animals in factory farms is hard to defend), and it’s unhealthy (that’s even true if you don’t eat it—there’s good evidence that the rampant use of antibiotics in livestock production has given rise to drug-resistant infections). I’d rate Beyond Meat as being 90 to 95 percent as realistic as chicken, but in every other way, it’s superior. It requires far less energy to produce, it’s got no saturated fats, no antibiotics, and no animals are harmed in the process.

    Brown got into fake meat after working in the clean-energy business. He says he loves the taste of meat, but his childhood on a family farm convinced him to refrain from killing animals, and he’s been vegan for many years. In 2009, he met Fu-Hung Hsieh and Harold Huff, food scientists at the University of Missouri who’d been working to create a meat substitute for more than a decade. The three formed a company, and they’ve been working to build the perfect fake meat ever since.

    The process has moved along in fits and starts. “It’s a combination lock,” Brown says. “There are three different parameters we’re working with—heat, cooling, and pressure.” To make the meat, the firm starts with a powdered protein—for the chicken strips, they’re using soy; for the beef, they’ll use a protein from a kind of pea—that they form into a liquid paste. The paste is heated, then it’s extruded through a machine that resembles a pasta press, and then cooled. “It was a process of trial and error to get all of those to align exactly right in the right sequence,” Brown says. “But if you do—if you get the heating and cooling sequence right, and you apply exactly the right pressure through the extrusion—you get the proteins to align in a way that makes them almost indistinguishable from animal proteins.”


    Brown says that other hurdles remain, and Beyond Meat is constantly working to refine its methods. Making the perfect fake beef is harder than making chicken, because people expect real beef to look a bit red, from blood. Beyond Meat can add a red hue using beet juice or other natural colorants, but Brown doesn’t know yet if people will consider it strange to have bloody-looking fake meat. This sounds like a trivial factor, but one study has shown that a meat substitute’s appearance is the most important factor to consumers—even before you taste it, you decide whether fake meat is acceptable based on how it looks.

    Over time, Brown believes, the firm will get all these little details just right. He’s also confident that society will accept his innovations just as it has adapted to tech revolutions of the past. “Once, we had the horse-drawn carriage, and then we had the horse-less carriage, and then we had the automobile,” he says. “I’m firmly convinced we’re going to go from beef and chicken products that are animal in origin to those that are made with plants—and at some point in the future you’ll walk down the aisle of the supermarket and ask for beef and chicken, and like the automobile has no relationship to the horse, what you get will have nothing to do with animals.”
     
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  3. Bruce

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    Hmm... If the protein structure is similar enough to have the same taste and feel, it probably has the same negative consequences as well.
     
  4. JayZ750

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    As a non meat eater, great news!

    We're a ways off but at some point in the future not eating real meat will be like climate change or gay marriage. There will be a lot of opposition, but hard to be against it logically and intelligently.
     
  5. B-Bob

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    Exactly -- I can see the triumphant announcement. Our new trials show that Beyond Meat matches animal meant step for step in taste, ... and now in colon cancer risk as well!
     
  6. DonnyMost

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    Maybe, maybe no. But the environmental consequences are probably negated, which would be nice.
     
  7. Nook

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    So many things wrong with this... It will NEVER be the same..
     
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    anyone want to see my third eye?
     
  9. Air Langhi

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    I bet in the future meat will be synthetic not because people becoming vegetarian, but just because it is cheaper.
     
  10. JayZ750

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    great response! well thought out. two thumbs up!
     
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    I wonder if the made in china stickers will be edible?
     
  12. Rodman23

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    Who knows what else there putting in there....
     
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    The protein might be similar, but I'm sure it doesn't have the steroids, antibiotics, and fat content.
     
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    Fake.

    Sounds like someone's just having a little fun with the vegans, feeding them actual meat & telling them it's not real. "The fattiness..." lol. OMG this baked pea paste tastes EXACTLY like ribs... they even made the bones seem so realistic!
     
  15. Dave_78

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    Protein isn't what causes the negative consequences of real meat.
     
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    This is actually really exciting. I've been waiting for years for commercially available "sheet meat" that scientists can now grow in labs but this might tide me over until then.

    As someone who loves fish (it's the only "meat" I still eat) I wish they could come up with something artificial that had the flavor and texture (and health benefits but minus the heavy metals) of salmon or tuna.
     
  17. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost clean your room bucko

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  18. Nero

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    Well, at least they will have something to eat in Boston now instead of Chick Fil A.

    :)
     
  19. RedRedemption

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    Good thing (a majority of) people won't be against meat in my lifetime! :)
     

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