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F*** the EU

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by AroundTheWorld, Feb 7, 2014.

  1. AroundTheWorld

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    US official apologises to EU counterparts for undiplomatic language

    Victoria Nuland reportedly said ‘**** the EU’ speaking of Ukraine crisis, though department didn’t confirm it was her voice on tape

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    The frustration of the Obama administration at Europe’s hesitant policy over the pro-democracy protests in Ukraine has been laid bare in a leaked phone conversation between two senior US officials, one of whom declares: “**** the EU”.

    The US state department did not directly confirm that the leaked audio clip posted on YouTube captures the voices of the top US diplomat for European and Eurasian affairs,Victoria Nuland, and US ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt. However, the department’s spokeswoman Jen Psaki said that Nuland, who made the disparaging remark about the EU, “has been in contact with her EU counterparts and of course has apologised for these reported comments”.

    In an attempt at damage limitation, US officials tried to turn focus onto Russia, suggesting that Moscow had leaked the audio recording. They pointed to an early tweet from Dmitry Loskutov, an aide to the deputy prime minister of Russia Dmitry Rogozin, that said: “Sort of controversial judgment from Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland speaking about the EU.”

    White House spokesman Jay Carney would not discuss the content of the conversation recorded in the clip, but he too invoked the Loskutov tweet. “I would say that since the video was first noted and tweeted out by the Russian government, I think it says something about Russia’s role,” he said.

    At the State Department, Psaki said that if the Russians were responsible for listening to, recording and posting a private diplomatic telephone conversation, it would be “a new low in Russian tradecraft”. Pressed on whether the call was authentic, Psaki said: “I didn’t say it was inauthentic.”

    Blaming the Russians for leaking a conversation that was presumably obtained by covert means poses problems for the US, as documents leaked by Edward Snowden reveal that the US has in the past listened into the communications of its allies, as well as enemies.

    The conversation underlines mounting US frustration at the EU’s position on the ongoing democracy protests in Ukraine. The EU has held back from joining US threats to impose sanctions should the Ukrainian regime violently suppress the protests.

    In the tapes, Nuland and Pyatt discuss the upheavals in Ukraine, and President Viktor Yanukovych’s offer last month to make opposition leader Arseniy Yatsenyuk the new prime minister and Vitali Klitschko deputy prime minister. Both men turned the offer down.

    Nuland, who in December went to Independence Square in Kiev in a sign of support for the demonstrators, adds that she has also been told that the UN chief, Ban Ki-moon, is about to appoint a former Dutch ambassador to Kiev, Robert Serry, as his representative to Ukraine.

    “That would be great I think to help glue this thing and have the UN glue it and you know, **** the EU,“ she says, in an apparent reference to differences over their policies.

    “We’ve got to do something to make it stick together, because you can be pretty sure that if it does start to gain altitude the Russians will be working behind the scenes to try to torpedo it,“ Pyatt replies.

    Nuland was in Kiev on Thursday for a meeting with Yanukovych, who told her that he wanted to quickly adopt constitutional changes called for by pro-Western demonstrators.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/06/us-ukraine-russia-eu-victoria-nuland
     
  2. dharocks

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    The language itself is embarrassing for sure, but looking at the quote in context it doesn't appear to be that big of a deal, at least to me. The wording is more inflammatory than the sentiment behind it.
     
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    Well then.


    I guess..**** the EU?


    Gotta remain patriotic.
     
  4. HR Dept

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    This is Obama's fault.
     
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    Obama will soon deny all knowledge of this and then not hold anybody accountable. That's his shtick.
     
  6. dharocks

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    You're saying you believe Obama had knowledge of what was said in the phone call when it happened? Was he listening in himself with the Russians?

    WAS HE THE LEAK?
     
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    Well the Russians can't b**** about spying and phone tapping now.
     
  8. SacTown

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    Can we talk about this Ukraine revolution? Haven't seen much about it in the D&D.
     
  9. AroundTheWorld

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    Yes, I would be interested in your opinion - aren't you married to a Ukrainian and have lived there?
     
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    Shouldn't that make Obama administration more popular with the wing nuts? :grin:
     
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    Our government is being run amateurs.
     
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    I seem to recall the last Administration making all sorts of disparaging comments about "Old Europe".
     
  14. fallenphoenix

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    you're trying too hard
     
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    At least now we know what Ukraine revolution is. It will go Lybia style soon.
     
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    This incident is petty and hilarious.
     
  17. AroundTheWorld

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    There are many reasons why it won't. Could you find either country on a map?
     
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    exactly
    basically she's saying shes frustrated with the EU = Scandal? Really?

    Does she have to donate to a swear jar or something
     
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    Nah, It'll go Labia style way before that.
     
  20. False

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    Just a person in putting off a little bit of steam about work in what was thought to be a private channel. Search yourself if you think this is actually a big deal. I can't wait till all those words are not considered something to wet our collective pants about.
     

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