Kubiak+Wade is the perfect combination. It would be a true shame if we didn't get at least another year with a healthy squad to make a run at a title (not that it's totally out of the question this year to get to the big game). IIRC Wade does not have a Super Bowl win, at least not as a coordinator/HC. I would hope that chance would supersede taking over a crap franchise like Tampa that is a few years away at best.
I didn't read the whole thread, but what makes you think Wade is desperate? Just because he is interviewing for the job doesn't mean he is desperate.
Bucs = 1 Super Bowl victory Texans + Oilers = 0 Super Bowl victories, though if you throw in the Titans they have an appearance at least.
He's campaigned pretty hard to get another opportunity. I think it's pretty obvious the end of his Dallas tenure still stings and he'd like the opportunity to erase it from everyone's mind. I agree, btw, with Fyreball - none of us begrudge Wade the opportunity but I absolutely believe the NFL should inact a policy that coaches are 100% off-limits until their season is over. This isn't college football; there's no signing day deadline. And they don't get access to their players until the spring. So there's zero reason to expedite this process and mess around with teams that are still in the postseason. It *is* a distraction; Wade will absolutely have his mind on things other than Texans-Ravens this week. So what's the harm in asking Tampa to wait what could literally be 72 hours? If they're not willing to do that, then they're probably not legitimately interested in the first place and the whole thing is a waste of everyone's time.
Yeah, that doesn't really tell the story. The Bucs don't sell out because ownership is cheap as hell. They had an assload of cash under the cap (as much or more than any other team, I think), and they chose to spend virtually none of it. As I recall, they brought in a punter...that's it. There seems to be little at this point to suggest there's a real commitment to the on-the-field product there right now.
This is just a courtesy interview. No way do the Bucs hire Wade Phillips as their HC. If Sherman doesn't get the job, it will be Zimmer, Childress or Schottenheimer.
I don't, man... of that group, he currently has the biggest "wow" factor; the most recent success. I'm not sure anyone in Tampa gets jazzed about the Bucs - but I'd much rather have the winning DC from Sunday's game than the losing one; I'd much rather have the guy that doesn't look like he drives a plain white van and must register with the state; I'd much rather have a guy who turned the 32nd-ranked defense around than the guy who turned 32 fifty years ago. And I can't figure the interest in Sherman at all. Again, Wade needs to be smart and not take a job for the sake of a job. If you're on *that* list of candidates, I'd have to think long and hard about the organization and what their priorities are.
I have a buddy who is a Bucs fan (go figure...) and he says people in Tampa are the most excited about Schottenheimer, believe it or not. They think he would quickly coach them back up to respectability and then someone else would take over to take them over the top. Of course, "excited" is a relative term in this case... He also says the media there seems to think Sherman is the leading candidate. Pretty much no one is talking about Wade.
http://www2.tbo.com/news/opinion/2012/jan/09/1/bucs-drive-for-a-seasoned-coach-gets-old-ar-345574/ Fennelly: Bucs' drive for a seasoned coach gets old TAMPA -- I have one question surrounding the latest from the Bucs coaching search: Are we completely sure Don Shula isn't interested? Understand: Methuselah would have had trouble winning with the Glazers and general manager Mark Dominik's dollar-store budget. But the Bucs apparently are now demanding previous NFL head coaching experience, and age, lots of age, as far away from Raheem Morris as possible. Turn right at Brad Childress, 55, left at Wade Phillips, 64, proceed to Marty Schottenheimer, 68. The introductory news conference will be held at Piccadilly. The Bucs interviewed Childress on Monday. Schottenheimer is in today. Phillips goes Friday. Dick Vermeil, stay frosty. The Bucs are overreacting in the opposite direction. It's not unusual. It didn't work with a young coach, so let's try old. But some of these names are so tired they positively make you want to take a nap. Mind you, it's nothing against Schottenheimer, who has won anywhere and everywhere he has ever gone as an NFL head coach … at least until he can see his reflection in a championship trophy. No man since the Super Bowl began has won more games without making a Super Bowl. There but for the grace of John Elway and Ernest Byner … Still, there's something about Marty. You think he's not accomplished? He has 200 wins. Not 50, not 100, not 150 – 200 . How do you scoff at him once you get past his birth certificate? He's in a different league from all these other names, completely. The man has won almost as many games as the Bucs have, ever. And who knows, Marty might be ready for a youth movement, might even be ready to dump those 1982 Tootsie glasses he wears. I have no problem with the Bucs at least talking to Schottenheimer. It adds some fun to it all, doesn't it? And, really, if there's one older guy on any of these lists who might go all Benjamin Button on us and light up the board like Vermeil did in St. Louis, or sell seven or eight tickets, it might be Marty. Who doesn't think he got a raw deal in San Diego after going 14-2, but 0-1 in the playoffs? And Norv Turner lives on? Talk about a coaching tree. Consider some of the coaches who have worked under Schottenheimer: Bill Cowher, Tony Dungy, Herm Edwards and Mike McCarthy … the list goes on and on. I'd still rather have had the Bucs make a real attempt at Jeff Fisher. And I'm still trying to convince myself that talking to Schottenheimer or Phillips isn't just a way of propping up due diligence until Mike Sherman, 57, is named next Bucs head coach. Look, Sherman's younger! Clearly, this search is about finding someone who is tried and tested, though Childress and Phillips – and Sherman – ultimately failed their tests as head coaches. By the way, in case you were wondering, here are the ages of all head coaches in Bucs history at the time they took over: John McKay (52), Leeman Bennett (46), Ray Perkins (45), Rutherford B. Williamson (49), Sam Wyche (47), Tony Dungy (40), Jon Gruden (38) and Raheem Morris (32). Does it really hurt to bring a man like Marty Schottenheimer in to hear what he has to say? The Glazers and certainly Dominik might learn a thing or two. Old? Marty is 200 wins old. Welcome to the process, sir, welcome.
Listen to interviews of him over the past month. He's dying for another shot as a head coach, and that's his right.
I just can't imagine Wade in Tampa, although the weather is nice and he is nearing retirement age. So who knows.
Marty is a great hire. He's someone I wanted the Texans to consider hiring the last few years when I thought they should let go of Kubiak. I'm actually of the opinion that a smart team could hire Scott and then get a young offensive coordinator to groom under him with the "coach in waiting" agreement in place and try to transition that way.
Sorry; Scott? Did you maybe mean Schott? Because I have to imagine his plan will be to sell his son as the heir apparent. If you hire Marty, you're most assuredly getting Brian, or whatever his name is.
Don't be such a prick. As if the only thing different between last year's D and this year's D was switching formations. Also, Wade's 3-4 is a bit different from traditional 3-4s. If we bring someone else, we might have to go out and get that big DT that wouldn't be necessary in a 4-3 switch. But if this team goes back to the 4-3, resigning Mario would suddenly be a top priority.
Relentless knows I wasn't being a "prick" so that's all I care about. You think Connor Barwin gets 11 sacks playing 3rd down DE in the 4-3? You think Brooks Reed has the same impact he had this year playing LB in the 4-3?
