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F-18 crashes into San Diego Neighborhood

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Hayesfan, Dec 8, 2008.

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  1. Lady_Di

    Lady_Di Member

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    Yeah, it was unnecessary to say "immigrant", oh well.

    What they meant by generations is that grandma, mom, and daughters died. That's three generations. I see that little babies didn't even get a chance to live life. :(
     
  2. dylan

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    I might be the only one who thinks this but man, it really seems like you're going off the deep end lately. Every time I see one of your posts these days I think of mrmeowgi's metamorphosis from semi-funny sarcastic dude to crazy wishing-death-on-people dude.
     
  3. 3814

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    Absolute tragedy. Poor guy, his whole world destroyed in a second...
     
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  4. SwoLy-D

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    Aw, HELL, no!!!! YOU :mad:...

    ;) I kid!

    No way. Sorry about all that screaming and "off the deep end stuff" lately. I am in no way like "Mr Meowgi's metamorphosis". I apologize for sounding like that. I wouldn't wish death upon no one unless their name ended with -ehmet Okhur. :eek: I swear.

    While it is a mournful tragedy for the guy's family, all I am saying is that it's weird to hear someone say that, is all, sir. I did say "anyway..." for a reason. But a "rolleyes" just meant to say that effin' reporters are making the story seem like there were more people. Maybe "members" of three generations would have been more appropriate. I catch a lot of that stuff lately from the media.
     
  5. Jayou

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    I think it's disgusting that you would suggest that this man took out some policy on his family for less-than-noble reasons.

    Your reading comprehension skills need some work, big time.

    From the MSNBC article posted earlier in the thread:
    "Dong Yun Yoon, who left Korea in 1989 and became a U.S. citizen, wondered aloud how he would persevere after losing his family.

    "Please tell me how to do it," he said, surrounded by his pastor, sister, brother and church members. "I don't know what to do." "


    Again, your reading comprehension needs some work.

    If you'd like some background on why you think his statements sound weird, don't forget that he's a Korean immigrant. He is literally translating his Korean to English, but he keeps a lot of the syntax and sentence structure in English the way it would be in Korean.

    Example:

    ""Please pray for him not to suffer from this accident," Dong Yun Yoon said. "I know he is one of our treasured for the country." "

    And it's pretty obvious that he's a God-fearing man with strong roots in his church community. That's why he says "I don't have any hard feelings". He looks to be more like Job, instead of a sue-happy typical American.
     
  6. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Yep. He seems like a really nice person who definitely didn't deserve this. I can't even imagine how I would feel if my mother, wife, and kids were gone one day.

    What's even more sad is crap like this happens in Iraq and Africa all the time because of mean, cruel, and misguided people.
     
  7. rocketsjudoka

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    One thing I've noticed sometimes at a tragedy it helps some to think about others to take their mind off of their own grief. Mr. Yoon's forgiveness of the pilot might be that situation.

    I used to volunteer for the Red Cross as a disater responder and on one disaster I was out at a fire where a man's mother had died. We met with him at his his house was nearby and his first action when we met him was to make us coffee and ask us if we we comfortable. Now I could see he was in pain but I think it helped him to worry about the welfare of people he saw as guest rather than his own grief.
     
  8. Surfguy

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    Because the incident seemed to happen so close to the water, I'm left wondering if there wasn't more the pilot could have done to avoid ejecting out of the jet with the jet headed straight toward a subdivision like this. I'm not clear what altitude the jet was at when both engines were lost. If a jet's engines' flame out, then does the jet just drop like a rock basically...or can it still glide/maneuver? I'm not criticizing the pilot's actions...mind you. I know that he probably only had a few seconds...if that...to make a decision what to do. I guess I'm wondering aloud that if he didn't eject...could he have done anything to maneuver the jet away from civilian areas...maybe even at the expense of his own life? I'm thinking in terms of "The Great Santini" here (if you've seen that movie). If you haven't seen that movie, then I highly recommend it as it's one of Robert Duvall's best performances. It's a bad situation to be in...but the question posed is could he have lost his own life saving other peoples' lives on the ground by doing anything...or did he just bail when he knew he was in trouble regardless? One lost life is better than four lost lives in my book. Of course, there is no way to know where the jet would crash. It could have crashed in an unpopulated area with a little luck.
     
  9. ima_drummer2k

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    Unbelievable to me that a family can just be sitting together in the living room watching TV and in a split second be wiped out. Especially this time of year. Frankly, I'm not sure I would have the will to go on if that happened to me. Really makes you appreciate what you have. And I'm not talking about 'things'.
     
  10. DonnyMost

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    So.... they're gonna help this guy. Right?
     
  11. kaleidosky

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    interesting experience..
     
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    From what I understand the pilot lost one engine on the way back to Miramar. It was decided by the military to have the jet continue on back to the base, through residential neighborhoods, on one engine. The remaining engine failed and I doubt there was much the pilot could do to control a 25000+ pound plane falling out of the sky. If you have seen the pictures of the neighborhood then you would have seen that the plane crashed less then a football field away from open ground near the base and it was reported the pilot ejected moments before the plane crashed.

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  13. 3814

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    SwoLy, can we have at least one thread left alone without comments on grammar, spelling, sentence structure, or word choice? Especially considering the topic...
     
  14. redao

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    The destroyed houses are right on the edge of a canyon which is extending from the ocean to the airbase. If the pilot just flew inside or along the canyon, he could drop his plane any time without such tragedy happening.

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    just 20 meters away from the open area......If I was the man, I'd be very pissed.
     
  15. KingCheetah

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    Horrible accident, but isn't there some sort of rule about ejecting near a populated area ? Sort of like a captain going down with the ship.
     
  16. Fatty FatBastard

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    Well, he did post a double-negative...

    What's good for the Goose is good for the gander and all.
     
  17. Space Ghost

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    It amazes me how many masters we have on this BBS. So many who can run this country to sheer perfection. And others who can guide F-18's w/out engines to perfect landings from behind their computer monitors.
     
  18. rocketsjudoka

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    This sheer speculation on my part but the error, if there is one, might've been the air traffic controller to vector the plane back through a residential neighborhood.
     
  19. rocketsjudoka

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    Don't forget coach and manage a professional basketball team to a championship.
     
  20. SwoLy-D

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    Ok, Jayou. Point well taken. Like I said, it is no less a tragedy, and a lot was lost on translation. It was silly of me to comment on "comments", me being an immigrant as well, but this man lost a lot and I should have respected that.
    Sure. You have one right now.

    Fatty... I didn't catch that... where was that?
     

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