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[Fútbol] Estados Unidos de Norteamérica vs. España at 2 pm

Discussion in 'Other Sports' started by SwoLy-D, Jun 4, 2008.

  1. DaDakota

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    Touche my amigo !

    To mix up 3 languages badly.

    DD
     
  2. leroy

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    This ref is terrible. No calls going for the US even when they're getting thrown off the ball.
     
  3. g1184

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    michael bradley is horrible.
     
  4. leroy

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    Not sure he's worse than Eddie Johnson. If these 2 games proved anything, it's that he has no business playing on the national team. He has no touch. He doesn't know how to use his speed. He can't make a clean pass to save his life. What does he do well? Altidore should have been here.
     
  5. RocketFan007

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    I'll repost what I wrote in the England thread:

    I don't like seeing Johnson out there either, but the lack of depth is horrendous at every position, especially forward. The only player, other then Altidore, that could possibly play up front for us is Kenny Cooper. He's the guy I think should have been given the chance.

    As far as Bradley does, he's being asked to play out of his comfort zone. His father believes that the only way the US should play is with twin "destroyers" in midfield. Bradley is a more traditional CM, or even attacking CM, if you see him play for his club team in Holland you'll see how good he really is when played in this position. Hell, he scored 16 goals this season, and clubs like Blackburn and Everton have talked about buying him this summer. He's not good when asked to do nothing but sit in front of the back 4 and hoof balls up field.
     
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  6. g1184

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    Bob Bradley is horrible.
     
  7. DaDakota

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    My thoughts,

    The future for the USA is incredibly bright we finally have some creative attacking midfielders and strikers coming up in Adu and Altidore.....

    Eddie Johnson is only valuable as a late replacement to use his speed because his on the ball skill is average and his finish is ....well....crap if he has any defender around him at all.

    McBride would have scored tonight.....so would Donavan.....

    I want to see Adu, Altidore and Donavan, Dempsey and Beasley on the pitch at the same time....that lineup is dangerous and creative.

    I am hopeful that Donavan and Adu get to start next week against Argentina.

    Our D is pretty good until they got tired......

    I like the team they are putting together for the world cup fun in 2010.

    DD
     
  8. RocketFan007

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    I don't disagree. I thought it was a bad hire in the first place, and he's done nothing but prove he's out of his element. If the US was smart, they would have ponied up the cash and brought in Klinsman, but they went cheap, and are paying for it now.
     
  9. RocketFan007

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    How do you propose to get all of them on the pitch at the same time? You can only play one CM if you play all of them, which would not be advisable. I guess Donovan could be played as a CM, but it's going to leave us extremely weak defensively.

    Bocanegra and Onyewu are a disaster together. We need a CB who is capable of actually reading the game, and pair him with one of them.
     
  10. DaDakota

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    I would play Donavan and Adu as attacking CMs....and Beasley on the left and Dempsey on the right of MF....then I would have Altidore up front.....or you could play 4-4-2 and move Donavan up front with Altidore and put in a defensive MF in place.

    DD
     
  11. RocketFan007

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    That team would score goals, but I think they'd gove up more. Adu doesn't have the defensive skills necessary to play in central midfield against the best nations in the world, at least not yet. Donovan could do it, but you'd need a damn good DM to play next to him, something we don't have at this point. I'm hoping to see Bradley at his more natural position as well, but it's going to be tough to get him in that position with all the attacking talent. Something like this may work though, it would leave Beasley as an impact guy off the bench:

    --------Altidore----------

    -----Adu-------Donovan

    -----Bradley---Dempsey--

    -----------Edu----------
     
  12. SamFisher

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    yawn, heard that before. Make sure you cite the 30-year old stats on youth soccer!

    yeah,heard that one before tooo. Hate to break it to you but lots of other countries are also fielding soccer teams, some of whom are actually cared about.
     
  13. DaDakota

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    Generally I would agree the USA has been pretty bad at getting creative players on the pitch, but have you watched Adu?

    And Donavan has so often put the ball in space but the striker he is paired with just failed to make a run.....

    While we certainly are no power on the world scene at least we have some good young talent playing in Europe now, so our national team should benefit.

    DD
     
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    This was true ten years ago. I personally am not buying the same hook line etc.
     
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    MEX vs. ARG on Telemundo now.

    Barely 10 minutes of football and it's already more exciting in near goals than the entire earlier game...

    EDIT: NICOLAS Bordizo GOLazo 12' Argentina. :(

    EDIT2: GOLazo de MESSI 18' Argentina. :mad: :(
     
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    I hadn't seen that about Altidore. Maybe getting the rest of the summer off to get ready for Villareal will help. That said, playing in at least one of these friendlies can't be a bad thing. Why not get him some experience against one of the 3 top teams in the world?

    You might be right about Bradley. I haven't seen him play club ball, but I had noticed that he was scoring. I know he's got the talent. It's a shame that his own father isn't using him correctly. He does, however, do some pretty stupid things while on the field. He tends to give up stupid fouls in dangerous situations.

    I personally like Bob Bradley. I thought he was taking the team in the right direction after the 2006 disaster. Lately, I see bad decision after bad decision.
     
  17. SwoLy-D

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    GOL de MAXI 32'... ARG 3 - Mex 0... :( at some point or another, Mexico will find our defense... sometime tonight...I hope... oy.
     
  18. Rivaldo2181

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    Ouch. Argentina is carving apart Mexico. Sorry SwoLy, it's only a friendly right ;-)
     
  19. SwoLy-D

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    Nah, F'no... :mad: I am mad we get beat to the loose balls and there are defenders just watching the darn game, Rivaldo... it's not "a friendly"... it counts. THEY ALL COUNT.
     
  20. Rocketeer

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    My god. Mexico's defense is atrocious tonight. I can only hope Ericson will take care of that. I want to see a full roster with C.Vela, Dos Santos & Nery Castillo up front & Marquez, Magallon, & Salcido maning the defense. Tonight the strategy and effort just wasn't there. What a let down.
     

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