Extremist Netanyahu says no Palestinian state if he remains PM

Haters gonna hate....

 

Is there anything this dangerous fool won't do to get re-elected? Apparently not. Wake up, Israelis.

 

It's not like his position has actually changed. What's changed is that ISIS has created an environment in which he can now politically benefit by telling the truth. It's been obvious for quite some time that he wasn't onboard with a 2 state solution.

 

Yea. It's actually good that this is now an "official" statement. Before, it's all game and it was quite clear he was never into ever giving Palestine a state.

 

This guy has won three elections and this position wrt to a Palestinian state is very mainstream in Israel. Bibi's position on this has been known, though perhaps not so explicitly stated, for years and supported by most Israelis.

He must be desperate as a lot of US support for Israel is based on the majority of Americans not realizing that Israel a s a whole was never serious about the so called "Peace Process".

 

The Jewish Americans we're friends with have a far different political view than Likud or their even farther to the right coalition partners, and my impression is that the views they hold are very common in the States among Jewish Americans. They want the Palestinian statehood issue solved by allowing the creation of a state for them on the West Bank and Gaza, see no benefit in continuing to illegally build settlements on the West Bank, quite the opposite, and would like to see Iran prevented from having nuclear weapons, but peacefully, through negotiations, if that is possible. That quitting negotiations now would be lunacy.

I'll add that I have met the brother of one of our good friends, who lives in Israel (and has for decades now) and came over for a visit. I mentioned this a few years back, this not being the only time the topic has been discussed, of course. He must love Bibi. Heck, he must have loved seeing his speech to congressional Republicans and a certain number of polite Democrats. I spent about half an hour chatting with him, and he flatly said that Israel will nuke the sites in Iran if it will prevent them getting atomic weapons. I told him that what he said astonished me, and that I found it hard to believe. He replied that I just didn't understand what a danger Iran was to Israel. Then I replied that if the regime in Tehran wanted large sections of their country turned into a parking lot by the United States, attempting to attack Israel with nuclear weapons would do the trick. Then he said that they couldn't take the chance that Iran would let American military power prevent then from destroying Israel if they could. Our conversation then turned to more mundane topics. It was a trippy experience. The friend who's brother this guy is said that he's been this way for many, many years, and not one of the dangers he's said would hurt Israel "next year, or in 5 years" has ever come to pass. Dangers threatening the existence of the State of Israel. This really happened 3 or 4 years ago, maybe longer, at a party in a condo on 4th street in Austin. Someone will probably say, "It's anecdotal!" Such is life.

So there's something in what you say about what Americans realize and don't realize with regard to Israeli politics. I think Jewish Americans, in the main, understand the issues pretty well. They very much are for continued American support and arms sales to Israel, and I don't see American support changing any time in the forseeable future. Non-Jewish Americans, however, may not understand just how radical Netanyahu is.

 

He is honest at least ,give him credit for that, instead of typical wolf in sheep cloth' Israeli mantra

 

much like the fire and brimstone thread, you can get elected on promises of good works or inflaming paranoia.

 

So that now he won and likely the PM, what does it mean to the world and to the US that were pushing for 2 states? Those of you that know the process and Israel a bit more, is it something that is dead and it's a waste of time and energy to pursuit or still a possibly even with Netanyahu as PM?

Seems to me it's dead and there is nothing the West can do about it.

 

I hope that the next US government will be at better terms with the Israeli government and its legitimate interest to defend Israel and its people.

 

P.S.: Netanyahu is not an extremist. CometsWin, however...

 

I could be wrong, but your perspective seems heavily biased as well. (I know, I know, I'm playing into the logical fallacy of the middle ground argument).

 

That would assume we are capable of electing a competent leader, which Obama is certainly not.

 

Sounds like we can save the State Department from spending a lot of time trying to negotiate something that neither side really wants. I'd like to hear more about what final solution Netanyahu aspires to. All I gather so far is he wants to perpetuate the status quo, which I can't imagine is acceptable to anyone for the long-term.

 

I have no personal stake in Israel. Just providing some counterbalance to the Israel hate by several posters on this board .

 

It means the US better start taking steps away from Israel before they drag them into a bloody war that they can't win... Basically what Obama has already started doing.

 

Romney said a lot of weird **** to win the repub nomination -- the vast majority of which he would have never followed up on if he had won the election.

 

Isn't he going to box Evander Holyfield soon?

You can say a lot of things about us ex-BCG guys, but a lack of confidence is not one of them .

I guess CometsWin's idol, prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu, would agree.