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Extraordinary admission to interrogators by London bomb suspect

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  1. tigermission1

    tigermission1 Contributing Member

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    Interesting, seems like they were a bunch of copycats looking to take out heir anger/frustrations on Londoners.

    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/story.jsp?story=654969

    Extraordinary admission to interrogators by London bomb suspect

    By Francis Elliott and Sophie Goodchild in London and John Phillips in Rome
    01 August 2005



    A suspected member of the 21 July bomb cell has told investigators he was motivated by the Iraq war, not religion

    Osman Hussain, suspected of attempting to blow up commuters in Shepherd's Bush, west London, has given an extraordinary account of a plot hatched in a basement gym in Notting Hill, according to leaks from his interrogation by Italian investigating magistrates.

    The suspected would-be bomber is reported to have denied links to the cell that killed 52 people two weeks earlier. But that outrage acted as a "signal" for the second gang to launch its own attack.

    The 27-year-old Ethiopian-born Briton, also known as Isaac Hamdi, was questioned by two judges after being arrested in Rome on Friday.

    "Rather than praying, we had discussions about work, politics, the war in Iraq," Hussain said of the gatherings in the gym, according to La Repubblicanewspaper and an Italian news agency.

    The would-be bombers watched films, "especially those in which you saw women and children killed and exterminated by the English and American soldiers, or widows, mothers and daughters who were crying".

    The propaganda helped to foster the group's "political conviction that it is necessary to give a signal, to do something", Hussain was quoted by La Repubblica as saying.

    "We never had contacts with the Bin Laden organisation. We knew that they existed. We had access to their platforms through the internet, but nothing direct."

    He told investigators the cell was surprised by the 7 July bombs. "We have no link with the Pakistanis," he said. However, his group took the 7 July carnage as a signal that it should also act.

    According to another report, from the Ansa Italian news agency, Hussain said: "We had to do something. We had to react to the climate of hatred and hostility that was created after the 7 July bombs. We were not supposed to kill anyone. That bomb would not have been able to cause victims."

    The Italian Interior Ministry confirmed that the quotes from Hussain's interrogation in La Repubblicaand the Corriere della Serawere authentic but declined to comment on the source of the leaks.

    The suspect was interrogated from Friday afternoon in Rome's Regina Coeli prison by Judges Franco Ionta and Pietro Saviotti.

    A court-appointed defence lawyer, Antonietta Sonnessa, declined to confirm the speculation that her client may have decided to turn state's evidence.

    It was not clear that Britain's request for the suspect to be extradited would be granted. The first stage of a preliminary extradition hearing was held yesterday but Rome's Court of Appeal may rule he should remain in Italy as part of an investigation into the killing of an Italian citizen in the 7 July bombings.

    If extradited, Hussain will join four other suspects being questioned at Paddington Green police station, three of who have been named as Muktar Said Ibrahim, Ramzi Mohammed and Yasin Hassan Omar. The fifth suspect has not been named.
     
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    ...must have been one of those "make-everybody-giggle" explosives.... :rolleyes:
     
  3. Ubiquitin

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    Maybe it was supposed to be a flash bang, but they did not know their chemistry.
     
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    There is no doubt his motivation was religious extremism, he's just citing the war as a motivation in order to further erode public support. Sadly, some people are answering his wishes by giving this publicity.
     
  5. Sishir Chang

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    Of course TJ is absolutely right. This all just a cover for their real motive their hate of freedom. Freedom fries that is and how in England they are known as Freedom Chips. They just can't stand the thought of the English desire for fish and Freedom chips.. ;)
     
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    Jorge, you are precious!!!
     
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    Muktar Said Ibrahim, Ramzi Mohammed, Yasin Hassan Omar, Osman Hussain

    Judging by their names, I would guess that they are all of Muslim faith. The article claims that religion had nothing to do with it? Hmm.
     
  8. glynch

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    Bigtexx should we assume that your support for the Iraq War is due to your Christian background and has nothing to do with your political beliefs?
     
  9. Sishir Chang

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    Naturally one would presume Muslims would get mad when they saw other Muslims get killed.
     
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    Except that there is plenty of doubt since we have FIRST HAND testimony of one of the terrorists as to his motivation. You can make up your own rationale, but we have the word of the perp so the case is closed.
     
  11. wnes

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    That's a leap of faith.
    [​IMG]

    Why could not they be atheists?
     
  12. FranchiseBlade

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    Of course you can judge by their names, or you can judge by their admitted motivation.

    I tend to think they would know why they did it more than you would.
     
  13. El_Conquistador

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    Sorry to think that a terrorists' testimony is anything but credible. FranchiseBlade, you are so trusting in the enemy....
     
  14. ricky-retardo

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    Why would they not be truthful? Sometimes people are just evil. A lot of people do not agree with the war but they would not kill people as a result. The war is just an excuse for what they really are, evil.
     
  15. MR. MEOWGI

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    Is killing tens of thousands of civilians in Iraq evil?
     
  16. tigermission1

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    Are they evil? Yes. Is this guy telling the truth about his motives? Yes.

    And bigtexxx, why are you surprised that Muslims are the ones offended the most by their fellow Muslims being blown up to pieces all around the world? What, would you expect the IRA to be the one carrying out such attacks because they are pissed about Iraq?

    Follow the logic here, texx, it ain't difficult, even for you.
     
  17. tigermission1

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    "The best argument against democracy is a 5-minute conversation with the average voter." -- Winston Churchill

    I am starting to think he had a point.
     
  18. ricky-retardo

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    I am assuming you are refering to the US and in our case no. Why? Because we are not doing it intentionally. Now if we started killing people for the hell of then yes that would be wrong. Do you think it was evil to bomb Germany?
     
  19. tigermission1

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    hundreds of thousands you mean?
     
  20. ricky-retardo

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    Depends on your source
     

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