Exhaustive review finds no link between Saddam and al Qaida

thought police?

 

Please. A less-than-clever two-word non-sequitur? Oh well, we debate with the wingers we have I guess...

You're free to think what you want. I'm just going to work like hell to see that the ideology and views expressed by you and formulated by the people you look up to never again get an opportunity to be enacted on the national and world stage.

 

The children are legal U.S. citizens.

 

Bosnia, Serbia, Haiti and Somalia offer a rebuttal.

 

It doesn't matter - it was still the right move

 

I hate to tell you this but Germany had been practicing parliamentary democracy since 1919 (internal revolution toppled Imperial rule). After the war only West Germany continued their exercise in democracy (until 1990, of course).

Japan obviously was not and MacArthur did his damnedest to force it to be one. Only after almost ten years of occupation was Japan allowed to self-govern and even now many claim that their parliamentary democracy is a sham.

 

I can't decide which is more pathetic... that you're OK with your government systematically lying to you or that you think the war is "the right move."

 

what's pathetic is that he claims black people blindly follow obama.

 

it would be tough to construe germany post-putsch as a democracy, but you go girl.

 

Note I said practicing. I was referencing a book about the democratic history of Germany - "practicing" takes on two meanings in that way. I am nothing if not a learned girl, mind you. Regardless, my point was that there was an internal revolution and internal desire towards democracy for decades prior to the splitting up of control of Germany post WWII. West Germay further "belonged" to three Democratic countries (two of which were in close proximity) and was in a region where democracy was not an aberration. As such, your summoning of Germany as a contrast to Iraq in a thread about ties to A-Q was rather unfortunate.

What do I know of such things, though, I am best kept to my loom.

 

Of course it doesn't matter to li'l t and asso. As long as it's someone else's skin in the game, it will always be the right move.

 

I like how the same people who are in favor of the war because it "gives freedom and liberty to the Iraqis" are the same people who support extraordinary rendition and the revocation of habeas corpus

 

i'm well aware of german history, under the kaiser, weimar republic, hitler, and post-war. the point remains, germany was not a democracy during the war, and german democracy under the kaiser was fairly limited in scope. which leaves the period from about 1919-1933- not much democratic tradition to build on.

 

And yet you continue to miss the point. No sense in anything, eh?

 

dude you are soooooooo stupid,

germany=iraq, we're still there, 60 years later, you have no concept of what it takes, you're a sissy who isn't in it for the long haul, democracy in the middle east here we come

 

we're probably making different points.

 

If I am making my point then by default you don't have one.

 

well then, your point must remain obscure.

 

Originally Posted by basso
an important distinction i'm sure to saddam's millions of victims.

I'm pretty sure that the Us, between both invasions, the occupation and the sanctions has killed a lot more Iraqis than Sadam ever did.

Not that it matters neocons.