You may have just offended several Christians with that statement. ------------------ "It doesn't matter. If it's the Lakers or the Spurs, I'm going to kill them." -- Cuttino "Jack" Mobley on possible playoff opponents.
Huh? How come in Genesis 2:2-3 it says : ------------------ "It doesn't matter. If it's the Lakers or the Spurs, I'm going to kill them." -- Cuttino "Jack" Mobley on possible playoff opponents.
http://www.it-is-truth.org anyone who has problems reconciling science and religion should check out that website. its written about sciene in the Quran, but it covers everything from geology to marine biology to nerve endings, embryology, astronomy, etc. and ill make a plug for a book as well, The Bible, The QUran and Science, by Maurice Bucaille (Who was Christian when he wrote it) but anyway, it examines the scriptures in light of modern scientific facts. its a great book to anyone even moderately interested in either science OR religion you can read it online at http://www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/Books/MB_BQS/default.htm you can also purchase it from amazon.com ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/omar369
Moe why don't you just keep believing in fairy tales and let the evil scientists do their work. ------------------ Why is Gonzaga always given a double digit seed? Just move them to the Sweet 16 where they belong and let them play from there.
Animals don't just evolve in a straight line. A monkey could have evolved into a human in one part of the world, while that same species of monkey evolved into a different species in another part of the world. Its all about particular environments. Millions of people believe in creationism. But why is that? Did you just come to the conclusion yourself, that the bible is right? No, you were taught to believe in religion, likely by your parents. You were taught at an early age, and now you could never accept religion to be wrong. The same thing applies to the millions who believe. They were taught by their parents, who were taught by their parents, and so on. These beliefs were started by a few, and they have just multiplied. That doesn't make it correct. I'd say there is a lot more evidence for evolution than there is for that book of legends and myths, the Bible. That's just my opinion, anyway. By the way, if the story of Adam and Eve is true, then we should all be inbreds. Think about it... ------------------ Hakeem "The Dream" Olajuwon is the greatest player in the history of basketball. If you disagree, you are not a Rocket fan.
I like your post ZRB, but please don't refer to our descendants as "monkeys". Even our distant cousins... Orangs, Chimps and Gorillas aren't 'monkeys'. They're apes. ------------------ (===)
<marquee>Didnt we already have this argument like a month ago???? BTW, Moe, please learn about evolution first and then try and start an intellectual debate. The discovery of a new species only strengthens the argument for evolution.</marquee> ------------------ [This message has been edited by JayZ750 (edited March 23, 2001).]
"Did you just come to the conclusion yourself, that the bible is right? No, you were taught to believe in religion, likely by your parents. You were taught at an early age, and now you could never accept religion to be wrong. The same thing applies to the millions who believe. They were taught by their parents, who were taught by their parents, and so on. These beliefs were started by a few, and they have just multiplied. That doesn't make it correct. I'd say there is a lot more evidence for evolution than there is for that book of legends and myths, the Bible. That's just my opinion, anyway." I am catholic because i chose to be catholic it wasnt because i was brought up one. ------------------ http://www.democrats.com mgh 1925-2001 [This message has been edited by dc rock (edited March 22, 2001).] [This message has been edited by dc rock (edited March 22, 2001).]
http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/Forum7/HTML/003042.html If you don't believe in evolution, how to you account for Darwin's observations on the Galapagos or the later studies also done on the Galapagos finches? So if God created the world in six days, did he also create human variation? (i'm asking because I don't really know all that much about creationism so don't get mad) How do you explain why some people have light skin and some have dark skin? How do you explain human variation and genetic mutation? The theory of evolution attempts to explain all of this plus why we walk on two legs (bipedalism), why bird's beaks change as the their environments change, why humans in the Andes mountains have a better capacity for processing oxygen in their blood and why their chests are so large. I could go on and on. Creationism does not explain these phenomena. Furthermore, creationism does not take into account all these skeletons of Australopithecines and Neanderthals that are continuing to be found today. ------------------ Poopy!
*puts his head in his hands*... *counts to 10*... *breathes deeply* Evolution has never run into a dead end. If you truly wish to not accept it, go ahead, but please don't try to convince the rest of us. After all, Creationism is a matter of Faith, not reason. ------------------ Boston College - Big East -East Division Regular Season Champs Worst to First in 2001!
Yeah, and? lol. ------------------ "It doesn't matter. If it's the Lakers or the Spurs, I'm going to kill them." -- Cuttino "Jack" Mobley on possible playoff opponents.
God, I can't believe I posted "monkeys". You are right. I sound like an uneducated fool. Well, I always sound like a fool, but this time it was an uneducated one. Apes! I meant Apes! ------------------ Hakeem "The Dream" Olajuwon is the greatest player in the history of basketball. If you disagree, you are not a Rocket fan.
Why do people believe? We believe in a God or creationism then still murder eachother, and send fathers and sons to send bullets into eachothers skulls because God is on our side. The germans and french believed in God and i'm sure plenty believed in Darwins theorys as well, same with the english, yet we managed to slaughter eachother pretty swiftly, hey God was on our side right? Maybe we beleive in meaningless words more than anything. Maybe we are in love with our ideas of god. Gives us securtiy, maybe. I don't know. I'm in the same boat, but it seems to me that if we really believed in God, and it was an experience instead of an idea we would not destroy one another. ------------------
Let me first point out that I am a christian. The reason I am a christian is because inside I know that God is real. You might ask why christianity, why not another eastern religion? I answer the bible makes more sense to me. Did you know that the bible is unique in that it is the only faith that has a punishment (hell) for people who don't accept its God? Did you also know that unlike other faiths the bible is the only one that has a living God? Mohammed spoke of his God but died. Buddha the same. There were others but my point is these people wrote about their God then died. Jesus, on the other hand, did not write about himself or his God but every book in the bible speaks of him and he died but rose again. Most of them, too, were written by different authors. These authors included prophecy, which were all fulfilled in Jesus Christ. Now I don't claim to know every single detail about the bible. I don't follow the bible to the letter. (I wished I could but I can't.) I do know that the bible is much different from any religous book you can find. The bible has been proven time and again to be highly accurate. So if anything, you cannot tell me the bible is false no matter how much you think science has proved it to be. Now evolution, I believe in a type of evolution. I believe people have evolved else there would not be africans, europeans, asians, indians, and so on in the world. But I don't think we came from apes. Note to everyone (including me) as much as we like to think of ourselves as smart the bible can and does confuse many. Not because it can't be understood, but understood in the context of what God intended it to mean. Think of it this way if there are any English majors here, how difficult it is to really know the meaning of Shakespeare, for example. And he is just a man--we on the other hand our dealing with God himself! ------------------ I am an invisible man. [This message has been edited by kbm (edited March 22, 2001).]
To start off, I am an English and Anthropology major. I guess I will work from the bottom up. The beauty of English and Literature is that it means many different things to many different people. I might read Shakespeare and get something totally differnt out of it than anyone else. Likewise, I'm assuming the Bible. However, the Bible HAS been proven INACCURATE in many cases. For example, I believe the Bible states that the world is about 4000 years old. Geologic data on the other hand, scientifically PROVES that the earth and the universe are significantly older- somewhere in the range of billions of years. If we didn't evolve from apes, then from what? Did some human spring up and then speciate into the different so-called "races"? You talk about Europeans, Africans, etc., but you neglect to mention that these are simply social constructions and have nothing to do with evolution. To be fair, I don't know that much about the Bible either, but I think only the second half of the Bible deals with Jesus. To claim that the whole Bible revolves around Jesus is false. Furthermore, there is no PROOF that Jesus even existed. ------------------ Poopy!
I dont know much about the Bible either, so let me ask: Do people who beleive in the Bible believe it was written down by actual people or was "found" somehow. I mean if its the word of God, did he write it, dictate it, or what? In other words, what are the origins of the creation and other stories? ------------------
Ali Cat, The bible does not say exactly how old the earth is. Preacher have sometimes been guilty of putting a date on the bible but I think science has proven otherwise. Next, Jesus is mentioned in every book of the bible mostly in prophecy. Take, for example, genesis. The bible says, GEN 3:15, and I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; he shall bruise thy head, and thou shall bruise his heel. This passage speaks of the virgin birth, the death on the cross, and the ressurection. All was fulfilled in Jesus Christ. Ali, have you ever wondered why it had to be a virgin birth? Well, for one thing because adam sined, mankind's blood was sinful, but in birth the blood of women does not get transfered to the child. In essence, it was not mankind's blood in Jesus but the holy spirit. Some of the other things I dicuss our my personal opinion, so I won't try to qualify them for you. ------------------ I am an invisible man.
JayZ, Most people believe it was written by man but inspired by God. That is what I believe also. And there are some mistakes. I don't remember where it is, but in the bible, when you read a certain number of people where at a battle or such and such, those numbers have been proven to be highly unlikey. But everywhere else, major ideas, nothing has been proven wrong. Most have been proven accurate so much so that people look to it as a historical record. ------------------ I am an invisible man.
