Evil Conservative Christian Gov. Tries to Screw the Poor (Again)

You guys are sad. Alabama rejects a huge tax increase and all of you are upset.

Socialists.

 

I love how liberals on this board can't argue on the points of the issue, instead they resort to namecalling and personal attacks.


Mr C is on a roll today!

 

It would really rock for poor people in the South and the whole US if evangelical Christians would get interested in economic justice issues like this governor.

 

Then suck on a bottle if you want to act like a baby and stay off the message boards. Your the only schmuk that can look at the Alabamans approval statistics of the Ten Commandments and rush off to call them hypocrites. I see they approve of the Commandments monument, but did you once post anything supporting their overwhelming disapproval of the tax increase? Dontcha think that would be needed to prove this silly immature theory you have that those Christians are not "of virtue?"

 

Read the newspaper article posted above.

I thought that most people participating in this thread were aware of the fact that the tax increase got rejected yesterday (tues) by a vote of 68% to 32% or something like that.

So now you are too.

You're welcome.

 

when we agree, i like to acknowledge it.

 

Amen!

And MadMax, it's really starting to creep me out how much I agree with you.

 

sorry about that!!!

 

A study by the liberal Citizens for Tax Justice found that, while the poorest one-fifth of Alabamians pay more than 10 percent of their income in taxes, the wealthiest 1 percent pay less than 4 percent.

Unfortunatley, Buck, according to the same study Texas is even worse. 11.4 % tax rate for the bottom 20%, less than 3.5% for the top 1%, which is $305 plus per year. Alabama's exact figures are lower 20% (10.6%) and tope 1% ( 10.6%).

I have always maintained that TX is the most selfish state in the Union, bar none. Income levels at roughly 25 our of 50. Consistently in the lowerst 7 out of 50 in any measure of aid to the poor, the sick or mentally ill.

I'll always remember over 20 years ago, while working at the AFDC and food stamp office, we got an office memo that AFDC mothers had gotten a raise in Mississippi and at least for a while the great and glorious state of Texas was dead last out of 50.

url for tax justice study

 

No on prop 12, denouncing Rumsfield, pro-taxing the rich...

....max, I'm putting you on Howard Dean's mailing list....now.

 

Oh no, a politician said one thing in his campaign and is doing something else. Like this never happens.

 

Do you have a point?

 

Interesting stuff there. As a Vermonter (and tentative Dean supporter), I was curious about how Vermont stacked up. Tax rates (including income, sales, property, etc.) were about 9.5 percent across the board -- from rich to poor. That surprised me -- Vermont *almost* has a flat tax (including income, sales, property, etc.), and I didn't even know it!

Thanks for the link.

 

ok...and i'll put you on this list and hope things work out!

http://www.democratsforlife.org/

 

Just that you tend to complain about things that EVERY politician does. The thing is, you only complain about it when it has to do with a position you are against. I think you should apply the same standards to both sides.

 

Actually, my point was more along the lines of: his plan was destined to failed becaue not only did he flip flop, he flip flopped from one extreme (no taxes) to the other (huge taxes). I didn't flesh that out in my post, but that is what I was talking about.

Like I said- "If he just wanted to improve part of the tax code in the face of unexpected deficits, I could see that." So I would have been fine with a flip-flop that actually made sense.

 

He "flip flopped" as you put it from a time when the state was in the black to now, when his state is in the red. What do you expect him to propose? Maybe a round of tax cuts for the top 1% would stimulate the economy. No, I guess that only works when you are the federal government and allowed to run any deficit you want.

 

I expect him to propose a moderate increase. Then he would have actually had a chance of succeeding. This tax increase is dead.

 

And instead he proposed a structure that was fairer to the vast majority of Alabamans (Alabamites? Where is bamaslammer when you need him?) and raised revenues for schools. This tax increase is dead, but the people of Alabama might have to rethink that when they can't maintain their schools next year.