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Evidence that Hakeem and Akeem whipped Jordan's Bulls

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by tinman, Feb 11, 2008.

  1. napalm06

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    That's walking a fine line in this thread. This thread has a bit of 'ifs' in it. Maybe 'ifs' are a little more justifiable than you think.
     
  2. tinman

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    i clearly stated at the beginning of this thread is about what did and not what if.

    since these games spanned back to the 80s, i doubt that fans of a certain player who's fans love the word if had any understanding of this topic.

    that being said, the recaps are here so people can relive or read for the first time what happened.

    like i said, it's a disrespect to fans of either team to ignore these games.

    if the rockets had a losing record against the bulls for all these years, i would be the first to concede we couldn't beat them cause that would be based on what I saw and this thread would not be here.

    however I remember what i saw, and old time rockets fans and bulls fans and the players of both teams know. those are the people who are important, not people who make assumptions.

    but for the posters who ignore facts or can't even talk about the bulls without mentioning anyone else besides jordan or not talk logically about matchups and strategy or analysis,

    they are just drinking gatorade and trolling like shrek.

    Clutch posted an article about Rudy T talking to Jordan about Bulls vs Rockets and Jordan acknowledged Maxwell's defense and our bigs.

    if people don't respect that article,

    they don't respect:
    Clutch
    Hakeem
    Michael Jordan
    Rudy T
    the cities of Chicago and Houston
    NBA history
    NBA greatness

    we're trying to make the GARM FFF
     
  3. DreamsRockets

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    BUMP. I came across this thread which searching some other thread and found it to be pretty interesting. thanks for all the articles, tinman!

    nobody seems to have posted these hakeem/mj games that exist on youtube so i'll gladly do the honors. hakeem dismantles the bulls in nearly all of them.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjVV2HPNEvU
    this one is the whole game and it's a must-watch for any die hard rockets fan out there. mad max plays some great defense on mj holding him well below his averages. hakeem plays some excellent defense by clogging the lane, covering pick-and-rolls and roaming all over the court.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VErIMkhDBrM
    this game (highlights) is from 1997. barkley's out, as is rodman. i remember this game really well and hakeem, despite fasting (no food or drinks from dawn till sunset), absolutely destroys the bulls.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LOtjPay4CM
    this is from the 1996 season (full game) where we had a ton of injuries. drexlers plays some great defense on jordan holding him to 7/26 shooting. we were missing several key players and that's the main reason we lost. also, jordan shows a lot of love to hakeem in this one. i think he says something along the lines of, "hakeem is a 6'9" version of myself." jordan really knew the value of the dream.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_ZVR4HTzAM&feature=related
    this is from 1990 (full game). tinman posted the articles on this one. it's the one where the dream and otis thrope flush the bulls down the drain.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J7rUAPzycw
    this is from late 1987 (full game). jordan and the dream go at it but the bulls came up with the W at the end.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEQylvTwOPQ&playnext=1&list=PLB87BD786FCCC5B3D&index=1
    this is from early 1987 (full game as well). rockets come up with a big win at the old chicago stadium thanks to some great performances by sampson, the dream and robert reid. jordan scored 43 points but took 43 shots to do so. the dream also swats his shot several times in this one.
     
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  4. T-Slack

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    All of us should just be happy the rockets won 2 championships. Jordan or no Jordan they can't take that away from us.
     
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  5. tinman

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    what Rocket fan isn't happy about the championships?

    those were fantastic playoff series, from clutch city in 94, to the amazing 95 run with Clyde on board.

    This is just a summary for all who never saw the matchup and make assumptions that the Rockets don't match up with the Bulls. The Rockets have had a major advantage in the early 90s and even 80s on the Bulls, and it's obvious that our front court destroyed the Bulls.

    Contrary to what some fake fans say, these games were important, Jordan played his heart out, so did Dream and everyone on both teams. None of these guys never went Vince Carter on effort or go Jamario Moon on defense.
    These games were epic.

    These are legends playing legends, respect them by respecting the games played.
     
  6. Jerry36

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    The better team is the one who wins the championship in June, no ifs ands or buts. You play for that trophy at the end of the year that says you are the world champs. The only way the Rockets will get the recognition of beating the bulls is in the NBA finals. Why do you think the media says the rockets championships are tainted because jordan retired. Because they didn't think the rockets could beat the bulls in the finals. When it came to the finals the bulls took on all comers. They didn't worry about how they match up against a team. that's why they're 6-0 in the finals. They beat all the the teams that beat the rockets in the playoffs easily. The better team is not found out in the regular season, only in the playoffs. That's the way it's always has been.
     
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    thanks tinman and dreamsrockets for the articles and videos,

    no doubt in my mind we would of taken care of the bulls who was the guarding dream?.................

    exactly, at least mad max was containing jordan
     
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    ZOMG....amazing! lol...good thread
     
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    My thoughts too. It's a shame it never played out that way.

    Basketball is a game of matchups. One series can change how the dominoes fall for the whole post-season.
     
  10. tinman

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    stacey king, horace grant, bill wennington, bill cartwright

    the bulls and other teams, had to double or triple team dream

    because that guy was unstoppable.
     
  11. Aleron

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    take out the 2001 game and those 2 went 10-10 over a 10 year stretch of their real careers, most of the years being split, owned? not really, would have certainly made an interesting series if the 2 could have met a few times.
     
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    Why did you bring Jamario Moon into this, I am offended... I know his defence sucks now, but it was ok during his rookie season in Toronto
     
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    What REALLY SUCKS is that in NBA2k11, they didnt even put the 93 or 94 Rockets teams in there! I would have loved to play the series out those Bulls. Rockets would definitely destroy the Bulls!

    I wonder if its cuz Hakeem didnt wanna be in the game due to his religious beliefs...
     
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  15. Aleron

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    its because the only teams are related to the jordan legacy, if we had played them in a finals series, we would be.

    the '86 celtics team, as great as they were only made it coz of his 63 point playoff game
     
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    I'm sorry, but you're flat out wrong. The NBA is all about matchups in the postseason. What was the biggest difference between the Rockets in 1993 and in 1994? What was the difference between the Rockets in 1995 and 1996? The Sonics losing in the first round in 1994 and 1995 was the difference. We probably wouldn't have beaten them those years either if they had advanced. Just because other teams matched up well with those teams doesn't mean they were better than us.
     
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    Any media says the championships are tainted because they didn't do their homework on the match ups and was too ignorant to realize that Jordan came back in 95 and was in the league and was ousted by a team that was swept by the Rockets.

    According to your own logic the Rockets were better than Jordan's Bulls in 95. They won it in June.

    The other flaws in your analysis dealing with match ups have already been pointed out.
     
  18. ParaSolid

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    There's no way Vernon Maxwell would keep Jordan in check for a 7 game series. Jordan would eventually get in his head and he would implode. Maxwell was a competitor no doubt, but he wasn't exactly a gifted thinker.
     
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    Except that in match ups between the two it was Jordan with Maxwell in his head. It was Jordan who ended up trying to shove Maxwell and start s*** with him.

    Maxwell was in Jordan's head already. I think Jordan would have been able to hold on, but Maxwell could gamble on Jordan. Because if Jordan did get by Maxwell he would have a tough time scoring inside against Dream.

    The Rockets match up was just too well suited to defeating the Bulls.
     
  20. Jerry36

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    I agree the rockets were the better team in 95. But once jordan got back on top of his throne, what happen 3 straight championships. I used to think the same way that the rockets could beat the bulls in the finals. When jordan came back and won three straight again, that convince me that the bulls would've won eight in row. He won the first three, left his throne. That left it open for the rockets to win 2. He came back got back on top of the throne again and nobody could win again until he left. You can't get no more convincing than that. I love my rockets, but i'm not blinded by the light.
     

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