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Evidence that Hakeem and Akeem whipped Jordan's Bulls

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by tinman, Feb 11, 2008.

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  1. Jerry36

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    Jordan wasn't at his best. He came back in the middle of the season. How many players do you know that come back in the middle of the season and play their best basketball. The rockets nemeis was Seattle. In 95 when the rockets won the championship they were swept by seattle in the regular season. In 96 they were swept again by seattle in the regular season. When the playoffs rolled around the rockets couldn't avoid them this time and got swept again. That's 12 straight times they were beaten, which then led to the Barkley trade.
     
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    Double Nickel = At Your Best (not the Aaliyah song, either).
     
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    Did you even watch the Magic-Bulls series? Jordan wasnt the problem at all. Their issue was that the power forward who happened to star on their championship teams was playing on the other team. That and their glaring problem of being unable to defend good centers was completely exposed by Shaq.

    The Magic were a horrible matchup for Bulls and it showed. The Bulls had no answer for Shaq and their rebounding was piss poor the entire series.
     
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  4. topfive

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    Wrong. Jordan played his best playoff basketball that year.

    Show him the stats, Tinman. Then he can tell us how stats are meaningless.
     
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  5. tinman

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    True Rockets fans will never be defeated.

    First they wouldn't give us the cover of SI so the entire city of Houston started canceling their orders.

    Now the Rocket haters send spies into the sacred temple of Clutchfans to poison minds.

    You can throw all the Stacy Kings, and Bill Wenningtons and Cartwrights at us

    but we're Olajuwon , so Dream on if you think you can defeat on Clutchfans aka the Summit of the Houston Rockets fans.
     
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  6. tinman

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    there's no evidence that this guy even saw the Bulls vs Rockets play, I doubt he even saw the Bulls play.

    However, there is a very credible person in the Rockets vs Bulls games.

    That would be Michael Jordan himself:

    Paper: HOUSTON CHRONICLE
    Date: TUE 03/26/1991
    Section: Sports
    Page: 1
    Edition: 2 STAR

    Rockets snap Bulls' win string

    "It was frustrating when Houston had a terrible quarter and we had even a worse quarter," Jordan said. "They've got our number right now and Houston is playing extremely well.


    Paper: HOUSTON CHRONICLE
    Date: FRI 01/29/1993
    Section: Sports
    Page: 1
    Edition: 3 STAR

    Rockets stop Bulls, Jordan/Defense keys 94-83 victory

    Countered Jordan, "Maybe if they played us every night, they would have a better record."
     
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  7. Jerry36

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    Let's go back in time
    90-91 Rockets swept the Bulls in regular season. When the Playoffs started they got swept by the Lakers. Didn't Olajuwon have the matchup advantage there. Why didn't they win as you say according to matchups. Bulls beat Lakers 4-1
    91-92 1-1 in regular season no playoffs
    92-93 Rockets swept the bulls in regular season Playoffs Sonics beat Rockets 4-3 Suns beat Sonics 4-3 Bulls beat Suns 4-2 Olajuwon had the matchup advantage in every playoffs series in the 90's, how come they didn't play the bulls. Did you say it's all about matchups? Don't give me that crap.
    93-94 Avoided Jordan and Seattle
    94-95 Played against half season Jordan and avoided Seattle
    95-96 It's Seattle time Swept in regular season and playoffs Bulls beat Seattle 4-2
    96-97 Barkley on board Rockets beat Seattle 4-3 Utah beat Rockets 4-2 I see another Olajuwon matchup advantage. Bulls beat utah 4-2
    97-98 Utah beat Rockets 3-2 Bulls beat utah 4-2

    The moral of the story - The Bulls was always waiting in the finals, but the Rockets couldn't meet the challenge.
     
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  8. tinman

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    I'd prefer what Michael Jordan says anyways.

    Where was Michael in 86? Dream was there.
     
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    After knowing the history of Bulls vs Rockets spanning different coaches and different players prior to 95, (you know they both started in the mid 80s)

    and you still think that the Rockets would lay down and get trampled by Chicago,

    then quite frankly you spit on Clutch City and the Rockets and the city of Houston.

    You might as well piss on the Olajuwon statue at Toyota Center.
     
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  10. tinman

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    For ROCKETS FANS , the REAL ONES, enjoy! :cool:

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  11. Jerry36

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    This is not about 86. It's about Could the Rockets beating the Jordan led championship teams. I did mention the head to head regular season matchups. You Just don't get it. You have 82 games in the regular season and you're not going to get a teams best effort. When it came time to put your best effort in the playoffs they came up short. They were not good enough to meet the Bulls in the finals.
     
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    Why is it not about 86? Jordan and Dream came in the league the same time.

    They never did meet in the Finals. you are right.

    When the Rockets played the Bulls each year since they were in different conferences they didn't play each other much, the Rockets clearly had an advantage over the Bulls and that showed through their victories over the Bulls.

    Simply ignoring what happened in these games, what Michael Jordan said, what Phil Jackson said.

    They were there in the Finals 3 times. Mike and the Bulls could have met the Rockets but didn't make it that far.

    86 was a great year, but a non Rockets fan wouldn't care about it.
     
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  13. verse

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    Jerry36,

    I'm speaking, specifically, to the matchup problem that was the Rockets to the Bulls. It's no different than the matchup problem that was the Golden Yao Warriors to the Dallas Cubans. Some teams are horrible matchups for other teams. Houston was that to Chicago. The fact that we lost to LA, Seattle, etc is completely irrelevant to that point.

    As Tinny pointed out, was Chicago waiting in 86? Was MJ not dropping 55 on the Knicks in 1995? You said he wasn't at his best, yet refuse to retort as to MJ having his BEST playoff series in 95. Bottom line is that he got his pocket picked by Nick Anderson in that series and watched as Houston obliterated that same Magic team. The fact remains that Jordan, himself, acknowledged the horrid matchup that was the Rockets. If the horse's mouth can admit it, why choose to be the horse's ass*? C'mon, now, this isn't that difficult.


    *kiddin with ya, but you may want to concede this point.
     
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    Typical closet Rockets hater. Could the Rockets beat the Bulls? Certainly. Your continual insistence that they couldn't- and we know a lot of factors go into "what could have been," but your single-minded belief that they couldn't, in spite of clear evidence presented that would at least cause you to say, "You know, they may have actually beaten the Bulls..." exposes you for the true Rockets fan you are- to not even give our team credence- yes, that's called hatred any way you slice it. I'm sure you can find plenty of www.jordanwonachampionshipeveryyearhewasintheNBAandhedidntplayatallin1995.com sites to commiserate with fellow Jordan worshippers. But that's what happens when you include your I.Q. as part of your user name on this site. Enjoy, B.A.!
     
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  15. tinman

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    Jordan took the game of basketball very seriously, he would never say anything to disrespect the game. If he says that Olajuwon dominated their front line (which was obvious if you watch the games or even the stats), he's being honest.

    To me, Jordan saying this in the Rudy T interview should bring closure. Not to debate the if the Rockets vs Bulls played who would win, but as respect to what had happened when he played them face to face.

    It's a same that alot of people here couldn't experience how it was back then.


    http://www.clutchfans.net/news/1549/rudy_t_reflects_on_rockets/
    On the Rockets vs. Bulls debate

    I finally got a chance to talk to Michael Jordan years [later] over at Barkley's house and he thought that the best matchup they would have had during that era was against us because of the way Max used to play him and how our big guys used to dominate their inside.
     
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  16. verse

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    Not shoulda, coulda, what woulda...more like did, done, and dead.
     
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  17. verse

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    The lack of pride and basic historical knowledge in this forum is often mindboggling. It's downright insulting to hear "basketball fans" on a Houston Rockets board not acknowledge that the best player to ever don our jersey regularly...REGULARLY...beat up on a Jordan-led, Stern-backed team. As Phil Collins would say: "Against all Odds!". We should all be in deference to the brilliance that was Hakeem Abdul Olajuwon. Maybe it's because some of these cats aren't old enough to have seen the games. Maybe. But when there's evidence posted, and DIRECT QUOTES FROM THE OPPONENT confessing the dominance, it just reeks of ignorance.
     
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  18. topfive

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    I know one player who did: Michael Jordan. But don't take MY word for it:

    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?p=5234404

    Too lazy to click? Let me help:

    And as Blake also pointed out, Orlando bounced Jordan's Bulls from the playoffs that year -- just before we swept them in the finals.

    So Jordan playing his best playoff ball couldn't handle a Magic team that we pummeled handily.
     
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  19. Jerry36

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    Jordan will tell you anything off the court. But on the court in the finals he will stick stake through your heart.
     
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  20. tinman

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    You know another thing that exposes you as a questionable Rockets fan, you never said one good thing about the Rockets, that's from the 80s to the 90s. You assume they would get their ass kicked. Not a single good thing about Hakeem. Not a mention at all of any of the game recaps.

    Jordan said this to Rudy T a few years back at Barkley's house, I don't think he would say it if the Bulls whipped up every year.

    And don't even think you can stop us here on Clutchfans everytime you anyone else tries to defile the Rockets legacy we are there to show the truth

    We don't stop. Clutch City never stopped. Hakeem never stopped. 99ers never stopped. And Real Rockets fans from the Clutch City era...

    you never underestimate the heart of the champion
     
    #420 tinman, Jun 7, 2010
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