Evidence that Hakeem and Akeem whipped Jordan's Bulls

I'm glad you made it, how was that ostrich burger with that extra large jamba juice with the free power boost?

I noticed you didn't read any evidence. why is that oh, non-biased sacremento fan?

Yeah Jordan never lost in his 6 Final Appearances

what happened to the other seasons he played and made the playoffs? he DID PLAY more than 6 seasons.

I'm guessing he lost. to Orlando, to Detroit, to Boston.

oh teams with strong front lines, which the Bulls had to steal Dennis Rodman in order to beat Orlando cause they wouldn't have touched orlando without Rodman.

What happened in between these 6 rings?

FACT: I posted the FACTs. You can't deny it.

I'm not predicting anything, but I'm sure the defensive strategy would be the same if they had ever played in the playoffs.

no need to double team that MJ guy. we didn't.

 

NEWBS,

carmichael dave is the best thing that has happened to this thread.
this is because he's not a Rockets fan, he's a Sacramento fan
and this is EXACTLY how everyone else in the world views the Rockets Championships


1. Carmichael shows that non Rocket fans dismiss CHAMPIONSHIPS
repeat CHAMPIONSHIPS (TWO, BACK TO BACK)

a. this isn't a diss on Yao or Tmac not making the first round. This is TRUE DISRESPECT. See what i'm always dismissing you fools when you post some stupid article on some website about the Rockets not being the #1 team?

we ARE NOT the #1 team, but back in the day we were CHAMPIONS TWICE, and didn't get the #1 team respect. See the difference?

1st Round exits - disrespect (you can see the logic), 2 championships (now you know)

2. This shows how often the Rockets were on TV back in the day, and PROVES MY POINT on how often the BULLS were on. I understand that MJ was the man, but you never got a chance to see all the other teams because of him. you'll miss the Rockets and other great teams because of the marketing of Nike and David Stern.

3. We couldn't even get a Sports illustrated Cover. Now Yao Ming does Fave 5 commercials.

Don't give us Veteran Rocket fans this 'we need respect' crap.
So next time you think the Rockets are 'disrespected' think about the ONLY TEAM that has brought use championships.

Think about the best freaking center, MVP regular season, Defensive player of the year, and MVP of the Finals not getting respect.

Think about all those times the Rockets beat the Bulls in the early 90s and how outsiders are still convinced the Rockets wouldn't beat the the Bulls, even though DREAM DESTROYED THEIR FRONT LINE and even KENNY SMITH owned BJ Armstrong.

Think about BILL CARTRIGHT's INTENTIONAL ELBOW to HAKEEM because we were blowing out the Bulls in their own building. Those are your unstoppable MJ Bulls. Don't forget that people dismiss all the other years MJ played and how THEY MAKE EXCUSES for HIM IN 1995.

When Dream destroyed the Lakers championship team in 1985, it was brushed off. How easily that is forgotten.

How easily Detroit, Boston beating Jordan in the Eastern Conference is forgotten.

Look up in the rafters of Toyota Center, respect those championships, cause Rockets fans are the only ones who do.

(for carmichael, big shot started here, not in la)

 

Players that played for the 2 Rockets championships
Dream
Sam Cassell
Mario Elie
Kenny Smith
Otis Thorpe
Clyde Drexler
Vernon Maxwell

and

for carmichael

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CLUTCHNESS -started here.

 

that's a rookie assessment.

look back that beginning of the thread and read the recaps and stop being lazy. Jordan even says that nobody on his team could stop Dream (Cartwright, Purdue, Scott Williams -yes that was the Bulls bigs)
their front line was weak and it was exposed early in Jordan's career (yes he lost) by Detroit and Boston. Later on when Jordan returned, the Orlando Magic wasted them on the boards, therefore forcing the Bulls to make a move for Dennis Rodman.

educate yourself:

Paper: HOUSTON CHRONICLE
Date: SAT 12/12/1992
Section: Sports
Page: 1
Edition: 3 STAR

Rockets turn Bulls inside out

By EDDIE SEFKO
Staff

CHICAGO -- The Rockets have caught flak, patched up holes and mended their wounds during the first six weeks of the NBA season.

All of a sudden, they became Bull-etproof.

That's the way they looked Friday night when the Rockets overwhelmed the two-time defending world champion Chicago Bulls 110-96 at Chicago Stadium.

And the impressive thing is, the best team won.

Call it a validation of the Rockets' leap into the upper crust. Call it a morale booster for a team that had yet to prove anything away from The Summit.

Call it the Rockets' fourth victory over the Bulls in their last five meetings.

"It's gigantic," coach Rudy Tomjanovich said. "This game is so much more important than just a game in terms of getting respect around the league and gaining confidence in ourselves."

It remains to be seen if that confidence and respect carry over tonight in Minnesota, but the Rockets started their three-game swing through the wintry northlands with a superb effort.

Hakeem Olajuwon had 28 points, 13 rebounds and seven assists as all five Rockets starters hit for 17 points or more. Otis Thorpe had 19 points and rookie Robert Horry had 18 points. Kenny Smith had 17 points and seven assists, hitting all three of his 3-point attempts. Vernon Maxwell had 19 points and did a respectable job of making Michael Jordan work for his 26 points.

Defense? After giving up 34 first-quarter points, the Rockets held Chicago to 62 in the final three periods. In the second half, the Bulls were 11-for-40 from the field until they hit their final three attempts in junk time.

It was a dynamic performance for a collective victory.

When the Rockets fired off a 13-2 run in the third quarter, they took a 71-60 lead. Even when the Bulls bit into the lead and pulled as close as 91-87 early in the fourth quarter, the Rockets responded, rattling off a 19-3 surge that spoke volumes about how strong the Rockets were playing and silenced the sellout crowd.

"Today, I saw in the papers where Chicago was picked to beat us by 13," Maxwell said. "And what did we win by? Fourteen?

"This proves that we are an elite team when we play at our best and execute."

And there's one more requisite, Olajuwon said.

"We have to play as a team," he said. "When we do that, it makes all the difference. It's a big plus."

True enough, but when Olajuwon is dissecting an opposing defense like he did the Bulls, everybody can tag along for the ride.

"They just isolate Hakeem," Jordan said. "He's an All-Star player. He got hot and the way to stop him when he gets like that is simple -- you don't let him get the ball.

"Because when he does get it, you can't stop him. We have no one who can match up with him. No one."
Not Bill Cartwright, he of the lethal elbows. Not Scott Williams and certainly not Stacey King or Will Perdue.

 

They would have never won 3 more titles without Rodman. That dude did all the dirty work, play D, and grabbed all the boards

Rodman was the key for the Spurs being so good in 95 and of course he was great in Detroit.

People forget about that guy and tend to elevate Jordan as the absolute reason for the last 3 titles. You can even argue that Rodman was more important than Pippen since he had the defensive assignments of Karl Malone, Shawn Kemp, and had to battle Shaq underneath.

 

i'm glad he did. show the rookies how much hatred the old rockets got even for winning two championships and spanking the bulls in the 80s and early 90s. so newbs can't complain about their perceived 'dissing' of the Rockets.
these teams get dissed everyday and for some reason they think Hakeem would not have a chance against a team where he puts their entire front line in foul trouble. all of them.

notice how the topic is Evidence that the Rockets whipped Jordan's Bulls, but carmichael only drops only selectively drops 6 seasons that Jordan played in.

I drop the actual head to head games. he, as a non Rockets fan, can tell you how much better the Bulls are, but it never changes any of those games I posted where Maxwell clamped Jordan and how Dream destroyed Chicago's front line like they were little soulja boys.

where's the evidence the Jordan's teams were so much better in head to head competition? but jordan won 6.... hey russell won way more than that

that's not the argument.

I also doubt that Carmichael actually witnesses the Bulls vs Rockets. So he can drink his jamba juice and wear his Kevin Johnson for President shirt all he wants. We who witnessed the truth are here to preach about it!

 

Oh Carmichael

Thanks Sacremento for Otis Thorpe,

here's a game that you never saw, when the Rockets thumped the Bulls (yes Jordan) and Otis Thrope was our leading scoring.

This was before Dream put the H on his name.
Good grief we beat them down with Sleep Floyd too!

dang! David Stern must have this tape burnt to a crisp too. 139 points on the UNBEATABLE CHICAGO BULLS ?

and Don Chaney was our coach!


Paper: HOUSTON CHRONICLE
Date: FRI 02/02/1990
Section: Sports
Page: 1
Edition: 3 STAR

Rockets crush Bulls 139-112/Chicago's newfound unity fades into thin Air Jordan

By EDDIE SEFKO
Staff

If this were golf, the Rockets today would be deflecting accusations that they are sandbaggers.

Whether or not it was by design, the Rockets set up Michael Jordan and the Chicago Bulls for a big fall, then slugged them Thursday night with a 139-112 haymaker that must have caught the visitors from the blind side.

The Bulls, after all, had spent the night before doing homework. They had watched the Rockets on television blowing a fourth-quarter lead, missing nine of their last 10 shots and losing at Dallas.

It was enough to give anybody a serious case of overconfidence.

"I think that they thought we would come out timid," said John Lucas. "And we didn't. We came out strong, hitting our shots.

As a result, fans at the sold-out Summit saw the best of both worlds. Jordan was airborne much of the night, scoring 35 points. And the Rockets got a runaway win.

It was a great game all the way around, unless you were a Bull.

"I don't think we showed up," Jordan said. "I don't call that a game. There wasn't any ball played on our part.' Considering the Rockets plowed through the Bulls' defense to a 41-21 first-quarter lead and widened the gap to 34 by the fourth quarter, Jordan was right.

The Rockets established season highs with 41 first-quarter points, 77 first-half points and 139 points for the game.

In their eternal pursuit for the .500 mark, they now are 21-23.

Otis Thorpe had 30 points and 13 rebounds, playing his best overall game of the season. It was his best point production since he had 33 in the fourth game of the season.

He had loads of help. All five Rockets scored at least 16 points. Akeem Olajuwon had 23 points. Sleepy Floyd had 20 points, hitting all three of his three-point shots in the process.

Sometimes, the Rockets can look pretty good when they play five-on-five basketball.

Playing five-on-one, they can look downright invincible.

They ganged up on Jordan.

The Rockets breezed by the Bulls like they were nothing but Air. And, on this night, Chicago was nothing but Air.

The Air Jordan show was magnificent as Chicago's superstar scored 25 points in the first half. He could have posted a remarkable scoring night had the score not gotten out of hand. He sat almost the entire fourth quarter.

"I have only one thing to say," Chicago Coach Phil Jackson said. "This was one of the longest nights I've ever spent in the NBA. And I've been in the league 18 years.

"The Rockets were terrific. And we were equally as bad.' Affirmative on both counts. The Rockets hit their first seven shots, fired in 72 percent of their attempts in the first quarter and hardly slowed down the rest of the way.

For the game they knocked in 62 percent of their field-goal tries.

"It's really amazing what a day will do for a team," Coach Don Chaney said. "Last night (Wednesday against Dallas) we couldn't buy a basket.

"Tonight, we shot the ball from all over and made everything.' In a way, it was no surprise. The Rockets continue to be a good home team and an awful one when they step outside the city limits.

"It's driving me crazy," Chaney said, "because I can't figure out why we can't hit a shot on the road. At home, we take shots and know they are going in. On the road, we're a different team.' But for one night, the Rockets successfully stole the spotlight from Jordan, although he had his moments.

He scored 15 second-quarter points, mostly on swooping drives to the basket, levitating above and beyond the Houston defense when necessary.

And while the Bulls may have subconsciously been underestimating the Rockets, Houston certainly got a boost by Jordan's once-yearly visit to The Summit.

"There's no question that when you've got a great player like him, your intensity level rises," Chaney said. "I was worried about this game because of the fatigue factor.

"But I don't care how you feel. When you go against somebody like Jordan, you get up for those games.' And the Rockets were never in trouble. They steadily increased the lead. Their shooting was as good as it has been all season.

"When you shoot the ball like we did tonight, everything falls,"said Mitchell Wiggins.

Including the Bulls.

But then, they were set up for the putdown.