it all depends...most people i know wouldn't uproot their families and move them unless the differene in money/lifestyle were hugely significant. my brother-in-law recently turned down a job in SF for that very reason...paid more, but wasn't much of a lifestyle change given relative dollars...and he says there's no way he'd move his kids away from the home and school they love. i think most people are like that.
There are still people who survived 9-11 who are taking lesser paying jobs when they get offers that they can live with (support their family etc) to get out of NYC.
Tell that to Karl Malone (signed for less in LA to win), or Barkley (signed for less so "#33 that ho" could come and help us win), or Cuttino (signed for less because he wanted to stay here).... just a couple of quick examples off the top of my head. And these guys are making so much money that they can really afford to make such sacrifices without affecting their standard of living. Meanwhile, as Max points out, people in every walk of life make the same kinds of sacrifices in their job decisions. I'd take less for a job, for example, if it meant I could take more vacation.
Who is to blame for the Beltran debacle All of these debates of why...... I wanted to collectively get a poll of who you really think mucked up the deal to keep Carlos an Astro.
I blame Boras for Beltran ending up in NY. I blame Drayton and the front office for the debacle that was created as a result of never having a plan B.
i don't know who to blame. it all depends on perspective. if you're willing to pay just whatever, then you blame the owner. if you think that boras' games are dirty pool, you blame him. if you think beltran was less than forthright, you blame him. i do question the purpose of the deadline rule. why? what's the reason for that rule? he can negotiate with every other team after 1/8..but can't negotiate with the only other player in the sweepstakes? i dont understand the purpose of that.
don't want to engage an argument..but how high would YOU have gone?? not that it matters because it's not your money...but would you have payed virtually anything?? given him an A-Rod deal...just to keep up with the Mets??
My view is.... If Carlos really wanted to be a Houston Astro, he would have told his agent to make it work. Agents work FOR the players......... not the other way around. If Carlos is idiotic enough to let his agent run the show and determine where he plays, then he isnt a REAL man. Bottom line IMHO is Carlos said either the Mets all the way, or either choice is fine just as long as I make the most money.
Clearly when you sign Scott Borass as your agent, you are in the game for one thing and one thing only......... $$$$$$$$$$MONEY$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I think he is worth about the same as Vlad and Pujols....that being said, I guess 15 a year for 6 or 7 yrs would sound about right......HOWEVER....If I went ino the negotiation not having a fall back plan, I'd be damn sure I came home with the pretty girl no matter what the cost...so, if I went into the fray the same way Drayton did, I would have made it very clear that I would top any offer so that Carlos made sure I got the last look.
Such a flawed question. Beltran operated in his own interests, Boras operated in his own interests. Neither of them (obviously) cared about preventing a "debacle" for the Astros, nor should they. But at the same time, I don't think the Astros offer was unreasonable. If anything, $108m was high. They took a risk on their offseason, put all their chips on the roulette wheel, bet on signing Beltran and let it ride.
Well, then Carlos isn't a real man. I think that both Carlos and Boras are at fault. I thought all along that Chicago was his favorite. If that was so, why didn't they give the Cubbies more time to enter the fray? Either way, it was about the money and it was not about winning. Ultimately, I do believe that Boras was not giving Carlos the whole story. I'm sure that he was telling Carlos that the whole income tax thing was overblown. It was Carlos' fault for either believeing him or putting this blind faith into a man that no one likes and that has burned bridges with nearly every team in MLB.
I can not believe the people who are giving McLane a pass on this, especially given his history of being tight with money. 1) The Astros mortgaged everything to take a crack at Beltran. With this having been done (Kent, Miller, no other free agents), you'd better go above and beyond to make sure you get your man. Drayton balked at the last minute on $11mm and a no-trade clause. Pathetic. 2) There was no plan B. None. Look at the unmitigated disaster that has become of this offseason. We were 3 innings away from the World Series last year. Instead of doing what we could to improve, we have significantly gotten worse. Why does everyone give McLane a pass on the Kent situation? Answer: Because we are so accustomed to his stinginess that we are callous to it. On the heels of that disaster, we give Drayton another pass for bidding too low? Come on now. Someone's definition "market rate" is obviously out of whack. 3) Perhaps the biggest gaffe of them all: Drayton EXPECTED to win the negotiation with Boras for the rights to Beltran. Only a FOOL would expect this when the following things are in play: -- Your bid is lower than another bidder -- You have a rookie GM working on the case against the toughest agent in the game -- You expect a hometown discount after 3 months of service -- You aren't prepared to raise your bid when faced with competition -- You are inflexible on the small details (like a no-trade clause) The blame this offseason is on one man -- Drayton McLane. He had the chance of a lifetime to secure a cornerstone for the franchise. He pissed it all away by tightening up at the last minute over $11mm and a no-trade clause.
