I don't normally like to boo a player - but it was all about the money - the Mets a garbage (even with CB) AND the few million more he gets out of them will be eaten up in taxes and living expenses of course his agent's cut will be more
Why boo? both teams will be 25 games under .500 by the time that finally happens, so they will be lucky that any of the 15,000 in attendance even notice or care.
i just wish there was a way where i could applaud him for like 10 seconds for what he did here last year, and then just boo the crap out of him for the rest of the time.
This sucks. Really sucks. ****ed again by the Mets. No possible way I'm ever going to boo the guy. He was the player singularly most responsible for the greatest playoff run in the history of the Astros. From the beginning, I said that if Beltran was running the negotiations there was a better than 50/50 shot that he stays in Houston; if Boras is calling the shots then there was virtually no chance. Boras played the game his way, his mastery of promotion, especially the media, is really remarkable...he would have made an excellent circus barker back in the day. Given the ****ed up financial situation of MLB, he played the game to perfection. Unfortunately, I will never have an opportunity to "boo", heckle, kick the dog of, piss on the Xmas tee of, and throw bags of piss on to, Satan Boras, Don Fehr, and the rest of the suits at the MLBPA and the corporate office, but I will never boo Carlos Beltran. The Mets however, are, after years upon year of utter suckitude since '86 (+/- a season or two), back upon my ****list. The Mets will not make the playoffs this year.
**** Beltran!! I'm booing his ass, and would go Piston fan on him and pelt him with beer if I could. We made him a good offer and he ****ed us. BOOOOO!!!
Of course, all of this is completely moot if Beltran had no intention of signing here in the first place and was just *using* the Astros to get more money from the Mets....
http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/n...content_id=929068&vkey=perspectives&fext=.jsp HOUSTON -- There will be a few misguided individuals who, needing someone to blame for Carlos Beltran's departure, will direct their recriminations at Houston general manager Tim Purpura. To those who would pillory Purpura because Beltran held the Houston Astros hostage to the 11th hour Saturday night before doing what he obviously intended to do all along -- go for the green -- we say why stop there? Why not blame Purpura for the price of gas or the weather? That would make about as much sense as blaming him for Beltran bolting. The fact is the Astros gave Beltran $100 million reasons to return. All of the talk about wanting to play for a winner and liking Houston and playing in warm weather were clearly nothing more than calculated posturing designed to get more money. At least Randy Johnson, after the Astros traded for him during the playoff drive of '98, made it clear to the organization he would not re-sign with them when the season was over. Agent Scott Boras could have informed the Astros weeks ago that they had no shot at bringing his client back. But that's not Boras' job. His job is to get his clients top dollar, and Beltran will now get that from some other club. Purpura and the Astros had little choice but to take Boras and Beltran at their word, putting everything else on hold. The Astros didn't want to pursue other free agent outfielders and perhaps send the wrong message to Beltran as well as take up money that could be used to sweeten the offer to the budding superstar. Meanwhile, Boras used Houston as a foil to try and start a bidding war between the two New York teams. "We went as far as we could to get it done, but in the end we ran out of time," Purpura said. "Despite all of our best efforts, we weren't able to get it done and it's certainly very disappointing." The Astros first offered $70 million, then $75 million, then $84 million and finally $100 million over seven years with a chance to make it $112 million over eight years if the 2012 option was granted. The final offer was more money than Houston has ever offered any player, and that includes Jeff Bagwell, Craig Biggio, Johnson or Roger Clemens. And it wasn't enough. That's as much money as Cardinals first baseman Albert Pujols received on his extension last year and more than Angels outfielder Vladimir Guerrero got last year, two players whose statistics clearly surpass Beltran's, and Pujols is three years younger. And it wasn't enough. Perhaps, in the end it will work out well for the Astros. The baseball landscape is littered with long-term deals that have failed spectacularly (think Jason Giambi, Mo Vaughn, Denny Neagle, and Houston's own disappointment with a promising young outfielder coming off a breakout season a few years ago, a guy named Richard Hidalgo). For all of his obvious gifts, Beltran is still only a career .284 hitter who has hit more than 30 home runs in a season just once. While Beltran may prove to be the kind of talent along the lines of Guerrero or Pujols, he hasn't done it on a grand scale yet, with the exception of his 12 postseason games this past season. And that followed a July 1 -- October 3 stretch during which Beltran hit .249. But Houston was willing to gamble he was a budding superstar. You could say Purpura and the Astros didn't do what could reasonably be expected to bring back Beltran. They went above and beyond that. Purpura and baseball operations president Tal Smith are known in the industry for being shrewd when it comes to putting a dollar sign on talent. They knew a fair price for Beltran, and owner Drayton McLane Jr. exceeded that price by a significant margin. To his further credit, McLane has never made a more impassioned sales pitch in his life. The community also got in on the effort. Fans signed petitions and held Web site drives urging Beltran to return. There were dozens of fans milling around Minute Maid Park late Saturday night awaiting word on Beltran's decision. Local civic and business leaders got involved in an effort. Teammates like Jeff Bagwell phoned Beltran. Roger Clemens agreed to arbitration, leaving the window open for his return while Beltran made up his mind. "I can't say enough about the effort everyone put in to try and get this done," Purpura said. "It was a team effort on the part of a lot of people. There were too many issues. We just ran out of time." It was a combined effort as everyone gave it their best shot. But in the end Beltran wouldn't take $100 million to play baseball in Houston. For him, it wasn't enough. Blame greed if you like. Blame Boras or Beltran. Just don't blame Purpura. Jim Molony is a writer for MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.
I say shower him with non-stop booing and dollar bills which have first been wiped across everyone's Boras so that each has a little Beltran on it.
haha, that was pretty good. On Booing Beltran, I can't imagine anyone more angrier than me last night when the news came out that the Astros never really had much of a shot and that Beltran was shut out from us since late December. Seriously, if Beltran was indeed "kept prisoner" by his own agent, I would fire him like a bad habit. I know there are complications, but why would anyone want to play on a team that loses consistantly? What does the Mets have to offer? A young infield and an aging... and I mean AGING future Hall-of-Fame pitcher? With the taxes and living expenses in NY, and the fans/media attention, he'll be lucky to post his average numbers sitting under that pressure. NY players are known to be relieved playing on the road when on a slump; is that the life that he wants? Of course, there IS a possibility that he just wanted to go to a team other than the Mets whom are offering more money.... With that, I'll soften up my stance a little unless the team is ...the Cubs.. or Yankees.... I guess I'll end up booing him anyways. But all in all, if what was said is true, and that the Astros was being played the way they have, that magical run in '04 would not be enough to keep me away from getting all my friends together, buying front row seats next to the 3rd base bench (spending money to show appreciation for McLane while wreaking havoc on the entire Mets team), and go from there. I just hope the Astros invest that money efficiently (Berkman, .. Oswalt, other potential FAs?)
I'm not going to be booing Carlos Beltran because he left. That's fine. I don't expect everyone who plays here to want or have to stay here. It's the fact that he used us, and obviously lied straight through his teeth just to get more dollars from someone else. He screwed us by not allowing us to go after any contingencies. **** Beltran ... He is on the hit list ... any by that I mean he deserves a ball thrown to his dome.
The biggest gaffe in all of this has nothing to do with the size of Drayton's offer. Look, with the benefit of hindsight, we know that Drayton did not offer enough money. Period. With that said, we now see the biggest problem as being Drayton's anticipation that we *would* be the winning bidder. Every move we've made this offseason has been tailored around signing Beltran. We passed on Kent. We didn't give Miller his money. We haven't signed any other free agents. We basically cleared the decks in anticipation of signing Beltran. Was this wise? NO. When you are dealing with a Boras client, how can you expect to win the negotiation when you don't offer the most money? It was clear that the Mets were offering more money. It was all over the media. Drayton completed misread the situation and attempted to call Boras' bluff. It did not work. Boras is one of the best negotiators on this earth. He took Drayton to the cleaners on this one. Used and abused him. My gripe is twofold: If you are going to clear the decks to sign a once in a decade superstar, then why would you not raise your final offer when it is clear that you aren't the lead horse? Secondly, why would you mortgage the farm on thinking you can win a negotiation with Scott Boras and have his client accept less money? These are two HUGE negotiating errors on the part of McLane. Huge. I can't believe some of you guys are giving Drayton the benefit of the doubt. Every year we lose guys because Drayton won't pay. And every year we end up disappointed after the season is over. Drayton did not make a winning bid for Carlos Beltran. Period. He did not pay to play. And in so doing, he got PLAYED.
lol never cease to amaze me jorge. 105 mill should of been enough under any circumstances give me a ****ing break
Not when you are 1. Dealing with a team willing to pay more 2. Dealing with a Boras client. This is EXACTLY the mistake Drayton made. He assumed a Boras client would accept less money. He based all his off season moves on this flawed assumption. He got burned. Now we are left with nothing. And by the way, when I type up a lengthy, well reasoned post, how about responding with a little substance next time, rookie.
