Every Single Commanding Officer of Kerry Says He is UNFIT TO LEAD

b-bob.. thanks. I try to look at things from both sides. In the end I tend to be conservative because there are some major beliefs that I have that they support. in particular being against abortion. . I don't want to vote republican all my life JUST because they are republican.. I want to vote that way because they are supporting the beliefs I have. Im sure there are many people who vote republican or democrat all their life without really even knowing what those parties support.


So much time is spent on who did this or that in Vietnam but in the end I don't think it will cause too many people to vote a certain way. I suppose we have to have some way to fill the months though with it being so long before the election.

 

Neither has yet been elected to the office.

 

rimrocker... bush wasn't elected to office? electoral votes are how the presidency is decided. .. He ended up with more electoral votes

 

I was mistaken... he won by 11%.













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Josh Marshall on Bush's "Leadership"...
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One of the things I've found difficult about writing about Iraq in recent days is imputing some level of seriousness to the arguments of the president and his retainers who continue to press an optimistic view of what's happening in Iraq. From them, on any given day, you can still hear the argument that, notwithstanding some tough days, things are still getting better in Iraq and the key to success is sticking with it.

At the same time, I talk to, or have conversations related to me with, various foreign policy, intelligence and military experts, all of whom --- across the political spectrum --- seem to believe that things are about as bleak as they can be. On top of this, they they seem uniform in the belief -- sometimes based on inference, other times based on direct knowledge -- that the White House is fresh out of ideas about what to do, and basically hasn't any idea how to proceed.

Either the president knows the situation is that bad or he (and perhaps his advisors too) is just too out of touch to have any idea what's happening. Increasingly, I think that the president is just too small-minded and vainglorious a man to come to grips with the situation.

A strong president, a good president, would put his country before his pride and throw himself into saving the situation even if it meant admitting previous mistakes and ditching past policies and advisors. But I don't think this president has the character to do that.

Making a clean sweep, firing some of his most compromised advisors, admitting some past mistakes -- not for effect, but so that those mistakes could be more thoroughly and rapidly overcome -- might well doom the president politically. But I doubt there's any question they'd be in the best interests of the country.

This president seems either disinclined to or unable to do more than preside over a drift into disaster while putting on a game face.

(Kevin Drum has an excellent post today on President Bush as the prototypical bad CEO -- Here's a snippet: "Bush styles himself a 'CEO president,' but the world is full to bursting with CEOs who have goals they would dearly love to attain but who lack either the skill or the fortitude to make them happen. They assign tasks to subordinates without making sure the subordinates are capable of doing them — but then consider the job done anyway because they've "delegated" it. They insist they want a realistic plan, but they're unwilling to do the hard work of creating one — all those market research reports are just a bunch of ivory tower nonsense anyway. They work hard — but only on subjects in their comfort zone.")

There's all this talk about what might be the best critique of the president's policies (politically and substantively), what the best alternative policies might be, and so forth. But all of that, I think, misses the point. This president is too compromised by his deceptions, his past lack of accountability and his acquiescence in failed policies, ever to correct the situation. Like C.S. Lewis's metaphor about the road to hell being easy to walk down, but the further walked, harder and harder to turn back upon, this president is just too far gone with misleading the public, covering up and indulging incompetence, and embracing venality ever to make a clean break and start retrieving the situation.

-- Josh Marshall

 

cohen.. I'm just saying when the article comes up with a commanding officer not supporting kerry or something.. instead of talking about that.. it turns into BUSH didn't serve...

whether bush served or not has nothing to do with kerrys purple hearts etc.. or what his commanding officers said then.. now.. or whenever .. bush never said he fought in vietnam or had purple hearts so if someone posts something about his commanding officers not supporting him for president.. I think that can be discussed without having to discuss bush.. I don't think anyone is discussing who fought better in vietnam.. we know bush wasn't in vietnam.... just like if someone is criticizing bush's record as governor of texas.. that should be discussed the good and the bad.. instead of saying.. KERRY wasn't governor of texas at all!

 

rimrocker.. I believe that vote is what said the electoral votes in florida were final.. which meant he earned the points and officialy won the election.. he wasn't voted in by the court I don't believe.. they just merely ruled the electoral count was valid in florida.. im im not mistaken

 

Excellent piece from Josh Marshall, as usual. The quote about C.S. Lewis pretty much sums it up.

 

Didn't know where to post this, so here you go... I'm proud to see my state is only 38th in IQ...
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AVG IQ AVG Income '00 Electoral
(1) Connecticut..................113 $26,979 Gore
(2) Massachusetts................111 $24,059 Gore
(3) New Jersey...................111 $26,457 Gore
(4) New York.....................109 $23,534 Gore
(5) Rhode Island.................107 $20,299 Gore
(6) Hawaii.......................106 $21,218 Gore
(7) Maryland.....................105 $22,974 Gore
(8) New Hampshire................105 $22,934 Bush
(9) Illinois.....................104 $21,608 Gore
(10) Delaware....................103 $21,451 Gore
(11) Minnesota...................102 $20,049 Gore
(12) Vermont.....................102 $18,834 Gore
(13) Washington..................102 $20,398 Gore
(14) California..................101 $21,278 Gore
(15) Pennsylvania................101 $20,253 Gore
(16) Maine.......................100 $18,226 Gore
(17) Virginia....................100 $20,629 Bush
(18) Wisconsin...................100 $18,727 Gore
(19) Colorado.....................99 $20,124 Bush
(20) Iowa.........................99 $18,287 Gore
(21) Michigan.....................99 $19,508 Gore
(22) Nevada.......................99 $20,266 Bush
(23) Ohio.........................99 $18,624 Bush
(24) Oregon.......................99 $18,202 Gore
(25) Alaska.......................98 $21,603 Bush
(26) Florida......................98 $19,397 Bush
(27) Missouri.....................98 $18,835 Bush
(28) Kansas.......................96 $19,376 Bush
(29) Nebraska.....................95 $19,084 Bush
(30) Arizona......................94 $17,119 Bush
(31) Indiana......................94 $18,043 Bush
(32) Tennessee....................94 $17,341 Bush
(33) North Carolina...............93 $17,667 Bush
(34) West Virginia................93 $15,065 Bush
(35) Arkansas.....................92 $15,439 Bush
(36) Georgia......................92 $18,130 Bush
(37) Kentucky.....................92 $16,534 Bush
(38) New Mexico...................92 $15,353 Gore
(39) North Dakota.................92 $16,854 Bush
(40) Texas........................92 $17,892 Bush
(41) Alabama......................90 $16,220 Bush
(42) Louisiana....................90 $15,712 Bush
(43) Montana......................90 $16,062 Bush
(44) Oklahoma.....................90 $16,198 Bush
(45) South Dakota.................90 $16,558 Bush
(46) South Carolina...............89 $15,989 Bush
(47) Wyoming......................89 $17,423 Bush
(48) Idaho........................87 $16,067 Bush
(49) Utah.........................87 $15,325 Bush
(50) Mississippi..................85 $14,088 Bush

(Average IQ by state according to the Ravens APM)

 

(40) Texas........................92 $17,892 Bush
(41) Alabama......................90 $16,220 Bush
(42) Louisiana....................90 $15,712 Bush
(43) Montana......................90 $16,062 Bush
(44) Oklahoma.....................90 $16,198 Bush
(45) South Dakota.................90 $16,558 Bush
(46) South Carolina...............89 $15,989 Bush
(47) Wyoming......................89 $17,423 Bush
(48) Idaho........................87 $16,067 Bush
(49) Utah.........................87 $15,325 Bush
(50) Mississippi..................85 $14,088 Bush

So not only are residents of states that vote predominantly republican poor and uneducated, but they tend to receive more federal funds as well.

http://eclectic.ss.uci.edu/~drwhite/pw/The_New_Welfare_States.pdf

Gosh, that's funny, if I were a hardcore right wing sportswriter for a small town newspaper from a "taker" state like Alabama that always brags about how I am an educated "producer" that votes republican while democrats merely buy the votes of poor people, I'd feel a little silly right now.....

 

Oh, the guy who started the petition said it ranged the political spectrum. Then it probably does.

Lemme know if you can find that non-Republican on the list.

 

True or not, that may be the funniest thing I've ever seen.

 

I have a higher IQ than all 50 states!!!!!!!

 

What the hell is CNSnews.com. It looks like one of those sites that pop up when you type a URL wrong.

 

It's founded by L. Brent Bozo-hell the third
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(from their site)
L. Brent Bozell III
President, the Media Research Center and
the Cybercast News Service

Lecturer, syndicated columnist, television commentator, debater, publisher and activist, L. Brent Bozell III is one of the most outspoken and effective national leaders in the conservative movement today.

Founder and President of the Media Research Center, Mr. Bozell runs the largest media watchdog organization in America. Established in 1987, the MRC produces several newsletters and books. The very popular Notable Quotables lists the most biased media quotes and at year-end a panel of 50 opinion leaders selects the much cited awards for the year's most biased reporting.

Mr. Bozell's books include
And That's the Way It Isn't: A Reference Guide to Media Bias; Pattern of Deception: The Media's Role in the Clinton Presidency; How to Identify, Expose and Correct Liberal Media Bias;
and Out of Focus: Network Television and the American Economy.

A sequel to And That's the Way It Isn't II will be published. The MRC web site at http://www.mediaresearch.org is quickly becoming one of the most popular conservative web sites.
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PS -- what the heck kind of middle name is "Brent" anyway? The "L" must be pretty bad if he wants to go by "Brent." Everytime I hear "Brent," I get a visual of Shaq shooting a free throw against the rim.

 

Brent Bozell is most famous from his celebrated legal battles with Vince McMahon and the WWF. I am not kidding.

 

Really? How do you square this with their previous (non-political/pre-partisan) evaluations of him as an "excellent" and "outstanding" leader, and his conduct in the field as "unsurpassed" as well as noted his "dynamic leadership"?

http://www.johnkerry.com/about/Fitness_Reports.pdf

Either they were not being truthful then (and risking the lives of their men in the process) or they are not being truthful now.

You and L Brent Bozell clamored for the release of Forbes Kerry's military records, and into the briar patch Forbes Kerry went.

The results are plain to see; his commanding officers contemporaneously offered an unqualiifed endorsement of his leadership abilities.

Are you calling them liars? Why do you proudly trumpet L Brent Bozell's impeachment of their prior recorded commentary? It casts them in a very bad light.

I demand you give these veterans the respect they deserve and request that you voluntarily ask that this thread be closed post haste.

 

Too easy.

 

Really!?!

So you must believe in spending money like there is no tomorrow while giving unprecedented tax cuts during wartime to drive deficits higher (in dollars) than they have ever been?

Looks like sound economic policy to me.