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Every Single Commanding Officer of Kerry Says He is UNFIT TO LEAD

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by El_Conquistador, May 3, 2004.

  1. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    andymoon, are you going to respond to my post up above or are you unable to?
     
  2. MacBeth

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    You do know what happened to the last government that chose to use the Euro over the US dollar, right?


    ( Somewhat serious, don't actually know if Iraq was the most recent.)
     
  3. krosfyah

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    T_J, on numerous occasions you claim to take the high road by not resorting to name calling.

    Just like W, your credibility is shot. Another classless thread by T_J.

    "This is my problem with the liberals. They spout off all of these moronic economic sound bites without knowing a darn thing about finance or economics.

    "People quit listening to the charlatans."

    "...you are simply repeating the mindless mantras of your handlers on economic issues -- Hollywood actors, singers, long haired hippies, Starbucks baristas, and liberal arts professors (and lecturers and grad students) would be proud of you. It's demagoguery and nothing more. It's simply an attempt to scare people and it has absolutely no depth of understanding..."

    EDIT: I forgot the quotation marks for TJ's latest name calling rant.
     
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  4. nyrocket

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    I do believe Chavez in Venezuela began making some noise about following the same path a couple of years after Saddam actually made the change. Dub and friends were quick to demonstrate that they did not care for that a'tall, as you may remember.
     
  5. Cohen

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    I'll pose the same question to you.

    ..or are you busy researching? ;)
     
  6. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    No, our capital structure is not optimal at this point in time, I'm not arguing that. What I'm arguing is that an optimal capital structure is not one that is debt-free. Leverage creates opportunities to improve quality of life at a reasonable cost. I believe in it, as do our policy makers.

    If the Euro became the currency of choice, the United States would be in trouble. The likelihood of this taking place is tiny.

    Any more questions?
     
  7. GreenVegan76

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    As a long-haired hippie, I take exception to that statement!

    :p
     
  8. Rockets2K

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    yea....me too :p:p

    I love always getting lumped into pigeonholes with wacko leftists just cause of the length of my hair..:rolleyes:
     
  9. nyrocket

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    I don't know anyone who disagrees with this. But at what point does increasing debt cease to be leverage and becomes instead reckless and irresponsible fiscal policy for short-term political gain?

    Why tiny?
     
  10. GreenVegan76

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    LOL

    I *am* a wacko leftist with long hair, so I apologize for the association! :)
     
  11. krosfyah

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    Carrying some debt and running up the largest debt in history are two different things. No?
     
  12. krosfyah

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    Actually, that is a quote from TJ. Sorry, I missed the "" marks. You can speak to him about that. :)
     
  13. ima_drummer2k

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    Yeah, I hate pigeonholes. But then, I'm ANGRY AND BRITTLE , so what do I know? :D
     
  14. GreenVegan76

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    Whoa, calm down, dude! You're getting angry and brittle!
     
  15. basso

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    the letter, via NRO:

    http://www.nationalreview.com/document/vets200405041615.asp

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    May 4, 2004

    Senator Kerry,

    We write from our common heritage as veterans of duty aboard Swift Boats in the Vietnam War. Indeed, you should note that a substantial number of those men who served directly with you during your four month tour in Vietnam have signed this letter.

    It is our collective judgment that, upon your return from Vietnam, you grossly and knowingly distorted the conduct of the American soldiers, marines, sailors and airmen of that war (including a betrayal of many of us, without regard for the danger your actions caused us). Further, we believe that you have withheld and/or distorted material facts as to your own conduct in this war.

    We believe you continue this conduct today, albeit by changing from an anti-war to a "war hero" status. You now seek to clad yourself in the very medals that you disdainfully threw away in the early years of your political career. In the process, we believe you continue a deception as to your own conduct through such tactics as the disclosure of only carefully screened portions of your military records. Both then and now, we have concluded that you have deceived the public, and in the process have betrayed honorable men, to further your personal political goals.

    Your conduct is such as to raise substantive concerns as to your honesty and your ability to serve, as you currently seek, as Commander-in-Chief of the military services.

    It is vital that the American public have as much information as possible about candidates for President of the United States. In various ways, you have rightly called upon President Bush to be fully accountable and to provide full disclosure. In the same spirit, now that you are the presumptive nominee of your Party, we believe it is incumbent upon you to make your total military record open to the American people.

    Specifically, we the undersigned formally request that you authorize the Department of the Navy to independently release your military records (through your execution of Standard Form 180), complete and unaltered, including your military medical records. Further, we call upon you to correct the misconceptions your campaign seeks to create as to your conduct while in Vietnam. Permit the American public the opportunity to assess your military performance upon the record, and not upon campaign rhetoric.

    Senator Kerry, we were there. We know the truth. We have been silent long enough. The stakes are too great, not only for America in general but, most importantly, for those who have followed us into service in Iraq and Afghanistan. We call upon you to provide a full, accurate accounting of your conduct in Vietnam.

    Respectfully,

    Rear Admiral Roy Hoffmann, USN
    Captain Charley Plumly, USN (ret)

    Mr. Alvin A. Horne

    Mr. Bill Lannom

    Mr. John O'Neill

    Mr. Wey Symmes

    Mr. William W. Franke
     
  16. MacBeth

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    The text following the border is a letter written and signed by the soldiers who fought with George W. Bush during the Vietnam War:



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  17. basso

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    and the following are the names of national guardsmen who have stepped forward to express their concern about W's fitness to be CIC:
     
  18. GladiatoRowdy

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    Absolutely correct.

    Debt is not necessarily a bad thing in and of itself, but we are funning up the debt faster than ever before in our history. We are getting to the point that US debt will be viewed as a bad investment which will lead to the Euro becoming the predominant currency in the world. Once that happens, we will be in deep, deep trouble.

    I am sure that shills like _ (I love his new moniker) will try to spin this as a good thing, but there is a reason that there has never, in the history of the world, been a tax CUT during a major war. Wars are expensive actions that should require the citizens to tighten their belts and sacrifice, not writing off the cost to future generations as this administration is doing.
     
  19. SamFisher

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    For this list to have any names on it, Bush would have actually had to show up for guard duty.
     
  20. GladiatoRowdy

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    The following is the list of all national guardsmen that have reported that they actually SAW GWB while he was "completing his service" in Alabama.













    That's right, there weren't any.
     

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