judoka, if you read the first part of my post, I fully acknowledged that evolution is absolutely valid as a means of speciation, and it should be taught in school because, well, there's overwhelming evidence for the process of natural selection.. and the latter part of your post is my sentiment exactly.. I think that evolution is valid, but the people who think that it solely explains how life came about are very foolish IMO from a scientific stand point.. that's all...
Can we refrain from making this thread yet another one about whether or not theories are fact? We've had that dumb argument dozens of times.
Actually, Newton's "Law" of Gravitation was proven to be incorrect (really more like incomplete). It has been replaced by the theory of General Relativity. In fact, the discovery that Newton's law of gravitation was incomplete had a lot to do with why we now don't use the term "law," and instead we use theory.
It was my understanding that it was a theory. Also the idea that germs cause disease and infection etc. known as germ theory is also just a theory. I'm glad they still teach it to medical staff, and don't throw in some other stuff just because officially germ theory is just a theory.
Err... go jump off a building and tell me what you find out about the theory of gravity. There is theory that explains gravity but gravity is not a theory. Newton's Law may have been proven incomplete but scientist don't dispute the existence of "gravity". Either way gravity and evolution are so far removed from each other as to make this a non-factor in a discussion of evolution. FYI - Evolution as a means of speciation is a valid theoretical discussion, the problem is the text books they are talking about explain that man "evolved" from goo over billions of years.
You act like gravity is a theory but it has evidence backing it. Evolution is a theory but with no real evidence. That isn't true. Both are theories and both have similar amounts of evidence to support their accuracy.
Everyone without formal training in science please stop arguing over theories and laws. It makes me sad.
Gravity is not irrelevant. As was pointed out in my earlier post that you probably just ignored, it is largely because gravity was eventually shown to be incomplete that scientific theories are no longer called "law." There is sufficient evidence behind evolution that it would have been called a law 200 years ago.
No I do not act like gravity is a theory. Gravity is a force in nature that has not been explained perfectly using mathematics. I don't need evidence to support the fact that gravity exists other than the evidence that when I drop something it falls. I'm certain the cave men had this one pegged way before there were any scientific theories.
You cited evidence for how you know that gravity exists. When you drop something it falls down. There is as much evidence that evolution exists.
I agree with you about gravity and didn't answer because you were dead on. As far as evolution goes, this "law" of evolution would be used to explain what? If we determine what evolution explains there may be no need for further argument.
This is the internet man. Plus all you people with your science as such, its all a big hoax. How can you prove your senses and perception aren't all being distorted by illusions created by your brain? Really we are all just brains floating in lab jars, hooked up to supercomputers, controlled by Alien Cyborg Zombie Chickens. There is your "theory"
Sorry, but the theory of evolution has mounds of evidence behind it. The fossil record, similarity of protein structures, "junk" DNA, and other lines of study all converge to one conclusion: that all known living organisms evolved from a common ancestor by means of genetic variation and natural selection. "I ain't no monkey" (or in this case, "I ain't no goo-ball") is not a valid refutation.
Sure let the US stop teaching evolution, the cornerstone of biology. I am sure there plenty of other countries that would be happy to take the lead in the field of biological science. Why don't we stop teaching other science subjects while we are at it as well. Sounds like a great plan.
I have very little experience with biology classes but I do remember in hs (I went to a catholic school) and in college it was one of the first things taught in biology class. no matter how you feel, it seems to be a basis for medicine through biology. anyone in medecine, has medical treatment improvement over the same time period been partly a result of evolution study?
