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ESPN's Neyer: No Ensberg, no good: Astros failed without Ensberg

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  1. codell

    codell Contributing Member

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    This was kind of buried in ESPN's baseball page. I thought it was a pretty interesting read.

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    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=neyer_rob&id=1626084

    Astros needed more Ensberg

    by Rob Neyer
    ESPN.com


    You know what's a lot of fun? The blame game. It's fun because playing makes us feel superior to all those managers who make huge salaries for chewin' tobacco and making up stupid lineups and saying "one game at a time" hundreds of times per season.

    Case in point ...

    Rob, I'm surprised that no one has picked up on the curious decision of Jimy Williams to make Geoff Blum his regular third basemen over Ensberg for the past two months. While I don't have the breakdown, my guess-timate is that it's about a 2-1, 5-3 ratio of their starts. The only reason that Ensberg has as many ABs as he has was due to Kent's injury and Blum moving to second for that period.
    Going into today, Blum has 34 more ABs than Ensberg despite the following differences: Ensberg has out-homered Blum 24-10, homering once every 15.5 at bats to Blum's once every 42. Ensberg has an OPS 200 points higher (.882 to .679). So unless Blum has developed the fielding skills of Clete Boyer and/or Ensberg those of Rick McKinney, I feel pretty confident that this decision has more than likely cost the 'Stros a game in the standings.

    Have fun with this one.

    Lonnie Burstein


    You might have gotten the impression, from the beginning of this column, that I think most (all?) managers are obviously bumpkins and I could manage circles around them if only some team was finally smart enough to give me the chance I so richly deserve.

    I don't really think that. Any writer who says he'd be a better manager than the worst manager is either 1) lying (i.e. "using poetic license) or 2) patently delusional.

    Which isn't to say managers don't do stupid things that you or I wouldn't. And giving Blum more plate appearances than Ensberg is pretty stupid.

    Entering the season, the Astros were, with Blum and Ensberg, blessed with two third basemen who could play regularly for a lot of teams.

    Here are some relevant career numbers before Opening Day:


    Age OBP Slug
    G. Blum 29 .336 .418
    Ensberg 27 .344 .388


    Of course, those numbers don't tell the whole story (do they ever?).

    Blum played poorly in 2001, but he'd played well in each of his other three major-league seasons, including 2002 when he posted a .367 on-base percentage and slugged .440. Great numbers, no. But decent enough for a third baseman, even a third baseman who plays half his games in Houston.

    Ensberg, meanwhile, destroyed minor-league pitchers in 2000 and 2001, but in limited major-league action he'd struggled some. In 2002, he started the season with the Astros, but when the club's hitters got off to a rough collective start, he was assigned the goat horns and returned to New Orleans. And Ensberg's no kid; he actually turned 28 last month (Blum turned 30 in April).

    Based on their past performance, there was good reason to think Ensberg was the better player. Ron Shandler projected a 767 OPS (on-base percentage plus slugging percentage) for Blum, 807 for Ensberg. Baseball Prospectus projected a 751 OPS for Blum, 818 for Ensberg.

    Edge for Ensberg, obviously. But not a big edge. When the season opens, Blum and Ensberg are platooned, which means Blum (a switch-hitter who's better against right-handers) plays a lot and Ensberg (who bats right-handed) doesn't.

    Blum started 14 of the Astros' first 15 games. Ensberg was a spare part, kept around mostly because nobody else wanted him. Ensberg finally got a real chance to play in late May when Blum contracted a "mild case of viral meningitis," and from that point Ensberg has played more often than not.

    Fast-forward to the All-Star break.

    Blum was dead on the projections, with a 746 OPS (.316 OBP, .430 slugging percentage).

    Meanwhile, Ensberg was tearing it up with a 1.031 OPS; his .418 on-base and .613 slugging percentages both ranked No. 1 on the Astros. Yes, Ensberg was playing over his head, but we're not talking about an inconsiderable number of at-bats: 199, plus 31 walks. It was, however, fewer at-bats than Blum has racked up.

    Perhaps that's understandable, though. After all, Blum came into the season as the known quantity. And, having played (slightly) better than Ensberg in 2002, it wasn't unreasonable for him to start with the everyday job. What's unreasonable is that Ensberg didn't finish with the everyday job.

    Ensberg did play more often than Lonnie suggests. But he didn't start on July 17 or 18, the first two games after the All-Star break. He didn't start on Aug. 11 or 12. He didn't start on Aug. 20, 21, or 22. He didn't start on Sept. 11, 12, or 13. He didn't start on Sept. 18, 19, or 20.

    Since late May, Ensberg's played against left-handed pitchers, he's played against some right-handed pitchers, and he's played when Blum played second base or shortstop. But if you look at the game logs for both Ensberg and Blum, you get the distinct impression that Williams was looking for ways to get Blum into the lineup, and didn't mind using Ensberg when the situation demanded it.

    Of course, it should have been the other way around. While it's true that Ensberg's numbers went down in the second half, it's also true that Blum's did, too. The final results? Ensberg's OPS in 2003 was 907, and Blum's was 674. Putting Ensberg's 907 into context, it wasn't as good as Richard Hidalgo's or Lance Berkman's, but it was better than Jeff Bagwell's and Jeff Kent's. Blum's was better than Orlando Merced's but not as good as Adam Everett's.

    When looking at something like this, we might consider three different perspectives: Before, During, and After.

    Before -- that is, Opening Day -- there wasn't any obvious reason to strongly favor one Astro third baseman over the other. I'd probably have given most of the job to Ensberg because I like younger players with his secondary skills. But a season-opening platoon certainly didn't seem unreasonable.

    During -- with "During" in this case referring to the All-Star break -- there was little reason to continue keeping Ensberg out of the lineup. On the other hand, Blum went into the break with a 15-game hitting streak (as Kent's replacement at second base). He didn't have Ensberg's power or Ensberg's patience, but a 15-game hitting streak (including three homers) will open some eyes (and blind others).

    After -- which is to say now -- it's obvious that Blum was allowed to bat far too many times this season, considering the availability of Ensberg.

    Did this cost the Astros the pennant? We're talking about a one-game difference between first place and second place, which is so small that it's impossible to say what wouldn't or wouldn't have made the difference.

    But as I mentioned earlier, a season-opening platoon wasn't unreasonable. And Ensberg did get roughly 200 plate appearances after the All-Star break. The Astros' stars got around 300, which means that even if Ensberg had started virtually every game, we're talking about a difference of only 100 plate appearances. Would 100 plate appearances from Morgan Ensberg have made a two-game difference?

    Sure, he might have hit a couple of decisive home runs. But no, it's not likely that he'd have made the difference. We do know the Astros came up short, and we do know they might have won if they'd let Ensberg play every day. But we can't say, with any degree of precision, that not giving him the job cost the Astros the pennant. This was not Joe Adcock, Frank Torre, and the '59 Braves (look 'em up).

    That said, the real test comes next spring. If the Astros are still screwing around with some sort of platoon at third base, you'll know they still don't understand what they've got in Morgan Ensberg. Blum's a handy guy to have around, but Ensberg's an everyday third baseman.

    At this moment, the Astros should probably be considered co-favorites (at least) to win the National League Central title in 2004 ... if Ensberg is in the lineup on Opening Day.
     
  2. eric.81

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    I saw this yesterday and figured it was posted already... also found it burried. Definately an interesting read and says how knowledgable the fans on this site are.... we've been screaming the same thing at Jimy ALL SEASON!!

    I like Neyer... good writer.
     
  3. Preston27

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    Only problem with this is Gerry is going to trade away a key player or two, think 99(?) when Hampton and Everett were traded. I'm thinking it will be Hidalgo and Wagner this time, as much as I'd hate to see them in another uniform.
     
  4. xiki

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    Wags probably wrote his ticket out of town but trading him could, at least, bring some quality. (Think a Bosox-Steinbrenner bidding war could be very nice? Let's see what their bullpens do in October!) There are doubtlessly other good options on the burners for a guy like Billy, even with his 9 mil.

    Hidalgo, tho, is even more expensive and far less certain. I would imagine the Yanks would bite -- if the 'stros would take back Jeff Weaver. To do that deal, other Yankees would have to be added to justify JW's contract. In other words, I expect Doggie to bark at Minute Maid next season. I hope he builds on this past season, not flops as he did post-contract.
     
  5. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!
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    HELLO !!!

    I have been saying this all season....Major, RM95, where are you Williams apologists now?

    HMMMMM????

    :)

    DD
     
  6. sonique15

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    I wish we could somehow keep this team togetha, esp. with Hernandez comin back next season......
     
  7. haven

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    Did you catch the blip at the bottom?

    Neyer considers this to be the only major, consistent tactical mistake made all single long by any manager.

    Williams needs to go. Picking Blum over Ensberg wasn't just a mistake - it was a ridiculously obvious mistake.

    DaDakota: I think I've got you've beat... I've been saying he sucks since the day he was hired ;). Glad to know other people agree now, though.

    QUESTION TO ALL: Why did Williams so much prefer Blum to Ensberg? It was bizarre. Blum might have been slightly worse defensively - but he wasn't masterful defensively, nor was Ensberg bad. However, Blum was a poor hitter - and Ensberg was an excellent hitter.

    It just seems one of the weirdest team selection preferences I've ever seen in any sport... one player so obviously better, and playing less...
     
  8. Major

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    HELLO !!!

    I have been saying this all season....Major, RM95, where are you Williams apologists now?

    HMMMMM????


    August:

    Ensberg: 82 at bats, 3 RBI
    Blum: 55 at bats, 7 RBI

    September:

    Ensberg: 65 at bats, 9 RBI
    Blum: 56 at bats, 9 RBI

    Say what you want about OPS and all that, but the second half of the season, the offense was needing to drive in runs, and it was Blum who was getting the RBI's. Ensberg was absolutely horrid in critical situations in August, when he drove in 1 run over a 29-day period.

    Even given all that, Ensberg played more. I don't see the problem here. He played his best when he was splitting time evenly with Blum, so that's how they played him.
     
  9. PhiSlammaJamma

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    Where is Rob Neyer's email bag? I can't find that damn thing and I want to send him a question. Thanks.
     
  10. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!
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    Major,

    Ensberg should have been in there most of the time......How can you talk about RBI's?

    What if Ensberg came up with no one on base? How can he get RBI's if the team is not hitting.

    Ensberg is an everyday player, who is much better than Blum...Ensberg should have been in there....

    Even the national media can see it.....


    DD
     
  11. DoitDickau

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    Major if your going to make that point about rbi's you need to put up stats showing how many times each came up w/ runners on base or runners in scoring position. otherwise though stats you put up are rather meaningless....I thought jimy did an ok job this year. until some i actually thought he handled the pitching staff masterfully. But blum or ensberg is inexcusable. it probably cost us the division. It's as bad as mike jackson over dotel and dierker got fired for that.
     
  12. Major

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    Major if your going to make that point about rbi's you need to put up stats showing how many times each came up w/ runners on base or runners in scoring position. otherwise though stats you put up are rather meaningless....

    They hit in the same spot in the batting order. Over the course of two months, do you really think there was a noticable difference in the total number of men that were on in front of them? 29 days, 1 RBI - do you really think Ensberg never had people on in front of him for 3 weeks?

    He wasn't performing - simple as that. His post all-star break numbers were mediocre. They were still better than Blum, but it wasn't like it was some spectacular performance, and Blum had more RBI's after the break, in fewer at-bats, than Ensberg. We needed runs and Blum was providing them while Ensberg was not, so he played a decent amount.
     
  13. DoitDickau

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    that a riduclous argument.
    1) your basing your argument on run production over the last two month right? you can contribute to teams overall runs in two direct way, driving in runs and scoring runs. Over that last two months (the time period you are looking at) that you talk about blum drove in 16 runs and scored 13 runs for a total of 29 total runs droven in or scored vs Ensberg over the same time period drove in 12 runs and scored 22 runs for a total of 34 runs. They had roughly the same number of abs over the time period. So had can you say then that blum was better at providing runs? This is of course exclude that overall batting (avg, obp, slg) often contributes to run productive even when rbi and run scored are recorded for that player. (ex. consider a basehit that moves a run from 1st to 3rd w/ one out and leads to a sac fly. this contributes greatly to the run, but the player that got the hit did does not record an rbi or a run)

    2) over the last two months, ensberg hit SIGNIFICANTLY better than blum. there is no other way to look at it. blum record a ~600ops over the last two month. ensberg had a 835ops over the last two months. that is a HUGE advantage! it's more than the difference over the season btw berkman and everrett!

    3)yes considering the huge advantage in batting performance it leads to the conclusion that over the sample size of two month blum had more opportunities to drive in runs than ensberg. I can't find month by month splits but consider this: for the year blum batted 230, w/ a 590 with runners in scoring position. That's about what he hit overall the last two months. If he was performing so much better in situations which make up about 1/4th of his total abs, wouldn't that increased be shown in his overall avgs for the months? i would like to see the stats of hitting w/ runner in scoring pos the last two months.

    4)there is a sabermatic that formulates a stat called "runs created". As your probably guessed ensberg is better their too

    again, your stats not put in context are meanlingless
     
  14. DoitDickau

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    :( the edit function is down? please excuse the typos and spelling mistakes
     
  15. PhiSlammaJamma

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    Seems like LOB would be a stat to look at.
     
  16. DaDakota

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    DoitDickau,

    Good post.

    DD
     

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